Yes, but its fun reading.No offence to either @danb or @Andy Ful as my knowledge on this topic is very limited. But the way you both interact with each other is just childish and not helpful. The thread should be about helping your users to protect themselves and not about your differences of opinion and the exposure of a product of the "competition". That’s not really the best way to promote your products.
Yes, i second that, plus we learn something new always. From this idea "battle" i learnt that OSArmor is great.Yes, but its fun reading.
Joking.
Please don't twist my words, I absolutely agree with you that discussions of any kind are very helpful and a great way to learn new things, but you both represent your products here on MT and the way you both handle your different opinions is far from professional. Anyway, I also find it quite entertaining but I just think that it doesn't make a good impression. So please don't take it as an offence.
I wasn't twisting your words at all, I apologize if it seemed that I was. I was just giving my opinion. BTW, I tried to be as professional as possible, but please feel free to post or pm me specific instances that were unprofessional, or that I could have done better. I would be curious to know so that I can do better in the future. Thank you!Please don't twist my words, I absolutely agree with you that discussions of any kind are very helpful and a great way to learn new things, but you both represent your products here on MT and the way you both handle your different opinions is far from professional. Anyway, I also find it quite entertaining but I just think that it doesn't make a good impression. So please don't take it as an offence.
Alright, no worries. I just think your video is exposing @Andy Ful tools like H_C or SWH even tho they are not even any real competition for VoodooShield as they are based on completely different approaches. So in my opinion it wasn't really necessary to show the flaws of the tools of NVT and Andy in public yet, especially on this forum that has many users of Andy's and NVT's software. This just casts a bad light on their tools, rather than highlighting the strengths of your product. Maybe it would have been better if you discussed this in a private chat instead of a public thread. After that, you could have still published it if you didn't come to an agreement. I hope you get my point.
In your case in a work environment, I agree you would have to take far more evasive actions. Sorry I don't have the expertise to help in your quest. Where I work it's a very large employee base of several thousand, and the IT department uses strategies that are vastly way beyond my scope of knowledge. I do know they have full control of every employee's COE workstation/laptop, and smart phone. Best of luck to you Sorry I went off on a tangent, but please know it's sincere and from the heart
I was thinking of checking out H_C but I think that needs to be installed correct? I prefer Andy's ConfigureDefender tool which allows for usage without the installation of any programs. Cheers!
No problem with the tangent. I did not even think you went off on one to be honest. I was just curious since you have been actively involved in discussion both here and on the other forum.
You know, when VS first started and other devs were testing VS, it initially appeared they were viciously attacking VS for no reason. I quickly discovered that they were not attacking VS at all, quite the opposite, they were actually just trying to help. Once I discovered this, I truly appreciated them spending their time testing VS for bypasses.Alright, no worries. I just think your video is exposing @Andy Ful tools like H_C or SWH even tho they are not even any real competition for VoodooShield as they are based on completely different approaches. So in my opinion it wasn't really necessary to show the flaws of the tools of NVT and Andy in public yet, especially on this forum that has many users of Andy's and NVT's software. This just casts a bad light on their tools, rather than highlighting the strengths of your product. Maybe it would have been better if you discussed this in a private chat instead of a public thread. After that, you could have still published it if you didn't come to an agreement. I hope you get my point.
This totally reminds me of a something from a few years ago, I think it was during WannaCry. I found a US map of all of the WannaCry infections that had a red dot wherever an infection had occurred. And I remember thinking, “You know, I bet half of the infections in the north east are actually CS testing WannaCry.”
This is the best one I have found so far. If I am not mistaken, I believe it is the one Leo used in his test as well.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. As long as there is no bad blood between you two everything is fine. You both have great tools and just shouldn’t have to diss each other. But as you said, if you were actually just trying to show up the security flaws of Andy's tools rather than badmouth them, then I take back what I said earlier. It just seemed to me that the discussion went in a toxic direction for no reason. Personally I think you should discuss this further in a PM and clear any misunderstandings away.
