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It's sad to watch. Time to move forward in life maybe as grudge never helps. Been there done that...
VoodooShield Review by PCMag India
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- Dec 23, 2014
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There are some people who do not like VoodooShield and some that like it. There is no reason to think that one has the monopoly of being right.
There is no productive discussion based on general likes/dislikes. It would be better for everyone to be more concrete. For example, VS seems a very light security (pro), but can produce many false positives (con).
So maybe, the users who like VS could post about the concrete features they like, and the users who do not like VS could post about the features they do not like. What do you think?
There is no productive discussion based on general likes/dislikes. It would be better for everyone to be more concrete. For example, VS seems a very light security (pro), but can produce many false positives (con).
So maybe, the users who like VS could post about the concrete features they like, and the users who do not like VS could post about the features they do not like. What do you think?
- May 16, 2018
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I guess I don't look in on enough Voodoo threads.
I had no idea that Voodoo and Dan are that controversial.
I tried it years ago... and I thought it was meh.. but have zero strong feelings about it.
But hey... different views are a spice of life.
I had no idea that Voodoo and Dan are that controversial.
I tried it years ago... and I thought it was meh.. but have zero strong feelings about it.
But hey... different views are a spice of life.
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1. It provides lightweight, out-of-the-box OS protection (hardening) while keeping the system fully usable.
2. Autopilot mode - it doesn't bother me with prompts, unless I tweak settings and then expect more of them.
3. The simple VS golden rule: If you didn't intentionally run it, don't allow it.
I give it the @oldschool
Edit: I forgot #4 - email Dan about a multi-year license because he might make deals!
It's good to support your developer.
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I've got one specific reason I use default-deny software and two specific reasons why I use VoodooShield over other default-deny software.
I currently use VS Pro by itself; have done so since the beginning of the year (and have used it alongside Windows Defender in years prior) and I'd certainly say I like the software.
Frankly, the main reason I use default-deny software is because I'm uncomfortable with the way antiviruses allow files to run unmitigated. Don't get me wrong, I'm confident in my own computing habits to not accidentally infect my own system, and due to me having a genuine interest in my own cybersecurity I'm undoubtedly at very little risk of infection because of that, but I'm not confident in a traditional antivirus's post-infection defences to protect me if that confidence were to be proven false, or if my system was attacked via a vector outside of my control (compromised website/CDN/ad network, for example.).
As for the reasons I use VS specifically: Firstly, its impact on system performance is hardly noticeable. After spending the majority of 2019 using Windows Defender and then disabling it at the beginning of this year, I saw an immediate and noticeable improvement to my system's performance. As everyone's hardware/software is different obviously results may vary, but my system is a cheap (£400/$482), general purpose machine running an i3 processor; it's not exactly a speed demon and any performance impact is fairly noticeable.
The second reason I use VS is due to its built-in Windows processes whitelist. This is what elevates it above SecureAPlus (the only other default-deny software I have any real experience with) for me. This might seem trivial at first, but if you've used SAP for any length of time you've probably been forced to unblock at least a couple of executables and dlls that are apart of any Windows installation but aren't signed by Microsoft. This thoroughly annoys me as I don't have extensive knowledge of every single unsigned file that's part of a typical Windows installation, and being prompted about said files simply generates doubt in my mind as to whether they're legitimate or not.
In regards of pricing: If you believe the pro version to be too expensive then stick to the free version.
As for controversies, I won't comment but I'll say this: If you don't trust a product (or its developer), don't use it.
Hope someone found this write-up useful. Thoughts? Questions?
I currently use VS Pro by itself; have done so since the beginning of the year (and have used it alongside Windows Defender in years prior) and I'd certainly say I like the software.
Frankly, the main reason I use default-deny software is because I'm uncomfortable with the way antiviruses allow files to run unmitigated. Don't get me wrong, I'm confident in my own computing habits to not accidentally infect my own system, and due to me having a genuine interest in my own cybersecurity I'm undoubtedly at very little risk of infection because of that, but I'm not confident in a traditional antivirus's post-infection defences to protect me if that confidence were to be proven false, or if my system was attacked via a vector outside of my control (compromised website/CDN/ad network, for example.).
As for the reasons I use VS specifically: Firstly, its impact on system performance is hardly noticeable. After spending the majority of 2019 using Windows Defender and then disabling it at the beginning of this year, I saw an immediate and noticeable improvement to my system's performance. As everyone's hardware/software is different obviously results may vary, but my system is a cheap (£400/$482), general purpose machine running an i3 processor; it's not exactly a speed demon and any performance impact is fairly noticeable.
The second reason I use VS is due to its built-in Windows processes whitelist. This is what elevates it above SecureAPlus (the only other default-deny software I have any real experience with) for me. This might seem trivial at first, but if you've used SAP for any length of time you've probably been forced to unblock at least a couple of executables and dlls that are apart of any Windows installation but aren't signed by Microsoft. This thoroughly annoys me as I don't have extensive knowledge of every single unsigned file that's part of a typical Windows installation, and being prompted about said files simply generates doubt in my mind as to whether they're legitimate or not.
In regards of pricing: If you believe the pro version to be too expensive then stick to the free version.
As for controversies, I won't comment but I'll say this: If you don't trust a product (or its developer), don't use it.
Hope someone found this write-up useful. Thoughts? Questions?
- Mar 29, 2018
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Precisely! I think you hit the nail on the head.
Same here. I'm an above-average user with neither coding experience nor a good understanding of Windows processes. This was why Comodo firewall was no good for me, the only thing I have to compare it with other than H_C. My experience with AV alerts includes Wise Vector SopX which I've been trialing recently. I found its "Document protection" about as problematic as Controlled Folder Access, maybe harder for the reasons above.
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If anyone has any suggestions how we can improve VS, I would love to hear your ideas, thank you!
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Thank you plat1098, good to see you as wellSurprise! Good to see you, danb.
.VS is a fabulous product , best to leave personal references about the author out of this thread
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Thank you, I appreciate that! I am all for that... four years is enough for me
. Just so people understand, I have to follow certain procedures in the criminal proceedings, and the restraining order is the first step.
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Yeah, I only see one person here “bent” out of shape. The end. Actually a decent review.I remember a couple of others who have appeared now and then, but ...
Hallelujah! Either that or close the thread.
Good to see you here @danb!
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Thank you, you too OS! Yeah, I am excited to see what suggestions users will have for VS. With the exception of small usability refinements and a complete GUI update, I am out of ideas for nowI remember a couple of others who have appeared now and then, but ...
Hallelujah! Either that or close the thread.
Good to see you here @danb!
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- May 16, 2018
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Laughing..... Just checked back in.
This thread certainly took an unexpected turn.
This thread certainly took an unexpected turn.
- May 31, 2017
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Thank you blackice! I agree, overall it was quite fair and accurate. I was shocked that Neil found a couple of malware that tricked WLC... I am assuming they were PUPs because it is quite weak on PUPs. I can tighten up WLC a little, but PUPs are always tricky, especially when they are signed with an EV sig. A lot of times the VT hits are super high, so it makes it look even worse, but really it is just a PUP. We need to unify the Blacklist, VoodooAi and WLC at some point and reduce VS's dependence on the blacklist... but there is no big rush on that.
- May 31, 2017
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Thanks Burrito, your post made me feel like a parent who just entered the room.
@danb
If there are any danger than tweaking VS to detect more PUPs would increase the false positives, then in my opinion it might be best to not do so. Seeing as VS from I recall is still design to run alongside a competent AV. Let the AV deal with pups and VS with much more dangerous malware.
If there are any danger than tweaking VS to detect more PUPs would increase the false positives, then in my opinion it might be best to not do so. Seeing as VS from I recall is still design to run alongside a competent AV. Let the AV deal with pups and VS with much more dangerous malware.
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