Webroot vs Windows Defender - MRG Test June 2016

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  1. hjlbx

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    Official Website:
    https://www.mrg-effitas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Webroot_vs_Microsoft_report.pdf
    Read the report very carefully and judge for yourself.

    This is first test to be seen for Webroot in a very long time.

    "MRG Effitas was commissioned by Webroot to conduct a comparative assessment. Webroot commissioned MRG Effitas for a comparative analysis of its Webroot SecureAnywhere Antivirus product, and Microsoft Defender."

    https://www.mrg-effitas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Webroot_vs_Microsoft_report.pdf

    Take note of where journaling and rollback does not\cannot revert system; Webroot marketing materials state this protection will revert system "perfectly."
     
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  2. SHvFl

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    Lol this must be a joke. A paid AV made a request to be compared to the default AV Windows ship. So let's forget this and move on. Those graphs, those graphs.....They sure show an accurate representation of difference or maybe they don't. I am out, MRG became the paid reviewer that shows whatever you want them to show. First Zemana and now this. They have 0 credibility in my books.
    Btw i am not saying they fake results but that they make the test and select contesters in a way that the product that paid for the review will show good. Which for me it's as bad as faking results.
     
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    #4 davisd, Aug 13, 2016
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    I sometimes wonder whom to trust, i surely don't trust MRG but comparing WSA to Windows Defender..

    "The purpose of this report is to run a comprehensive comparative assessment of two home internet security products: Webroot SecureAnywhere Antivirus and Microsoft Defender."

    I never knew MD was home internet security :D

    Then why would Webroot make a commission to MRG Effitas to make this comparative analysis if they weren't perfectly sure that journaling/rollback does work as intended. I don't know how i feel reading this report. WSA doesn't even look good (if this is a paid test by webroot). I guess i will just move on.. thanks for share @hjlbx

    EDIT: there is also a comparative analysis of Webroot SecureAnywhere Business Endpoint Protection and ESET Endpoint Security in June 2016 https://www.mrg-effitas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Webroot_vs_ESET_report.pdf
     
  5. Shran

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    "The following components have been turned off on both configurations:
    Smartscreen URL filtering
    Smartscreen download filtering
    SmartScreen application start filtering
    UAC."


    *MRG hits blunt rolled from all the cash Webroot paid them*
    "Hey, let's turn off most of the integral parts of the OS's built in security which is designed to help & makes WD and buit in OS security much more powerful, then call it a fair & objective test."
     
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  6. hjlbx

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    The concept is to use Windows Defender as the bare minimum baseline protection.

    Obviously in the comparison Webroot performs better than Windows Defender.
     
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  7. Shran

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    Of course one product will perform better if you disable companion components of the competitor.
    WD is designed to work with the other hardening components of the OS, of course it isn't a full suite like Webroot when you remove the built in OS measures that it relies on, its like shooting WD in the foot then testing it in an athletic competition.
     
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  8. hjlbx

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    MRG had to disable SmartScreen to make Webroot and Windows Defender as equivalent as possible.

    SmartScreen will block unsigned\unknown file whereas Webroot will default-allow unsigned\unknown file.

    MRG tried to compare apples-to-apples, but it isn't ideal because of different functionality and settings.
     
  9. Shran

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    Fair point, but disabling the other components was really necessary? I still don't feel like it was a fair test, because SmartScreen being disabled drastically reduces WD capabilities, not just against unsigned but against everything.

    Besides, who said you can't use SmartScreen WITH Webroot? Could have left it on for both tests... in the Webroot x ESET one it was on for both...
     
  10. hjlbx

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    #10 hjlbx, Aug 13, 2016
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    Actually, it is one of the most fair tests I have seen from MRG yet for a vendor commissioned test.

    However, comparing WSA to Windows Defender is kinda of a joke. Windows Defender is the bare minimum for baseline protection -- so Webroot better do a WHOLE lot better than WD - which it doesn't.

    If Webroot started handily beating Kaspersky or Bitdefender at every single AV lab and all other HIPS\firewall\physical system protection tests - it might draw my interest.

    The only real advantage to Webroot is that is provides a decent protection model in a tiny, very light package.

    Paid antivirus and internet security softs are not a good value - at least not for security soft geeks.
     
  11. Shran

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    You'll get no argument from me there :). & no rudeness or disrespect intended earlier (when I said I don't find it a fair test)
     
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    However they did enabled it on one test.
    "For the phishing test, Smartscreen URL filtering has been turned on in the Microsoft Defender configuration."
     
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    I used to beta test for WebRoot about a year and a half ago.
    I don't know whats happening to WebRoot, but it was not this
    bad before. They seem desperate for positive affirmation.
    If this is the case jump into the water with the big boys and
    get tested by good certified labs. With this type of program
    and its popularity, the fact that they still hide the way they do
    for me is a big warning sign. It doesn't take a genios to see
    somethings not quite right.
    PeAcE
     
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    To me this whole thing of comparing antivirus to Microsoft is senseless. If Microsoft wanted to, they could bury these other antivirus companies . Nobody knows Windows 10 better than them. Microsoft I believe is in a no win situation, get too good the other companies start crying foul, at the other end of the spectrum everyone says your product sucks. But I believe Microsoft is starting to really improve their security with these new updates, so other antivirus companies, Beware!
     
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  16. hjlbx

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    TripleHelix, Baldrick and other Webroot community fanboys and the Webroot marketing department do more damage to WSA than anything else.

    Just sayin'... it's no secret and people on these forums are smart enough to figure it out for themselves.
     
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    Gees hjbx, don't be saying that in the other site. lol
     
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  18. hjlbx

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    I already have... more than just a few times.
     
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  19. hjlbx

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    Another thing that hampers WSA development and improvement is that malware testing is not allowed on the Webroot community forum - not even in the closed sections for testers.

    Instead, reports have to be submitted to support and that is just a huge, massive rigmarole\hassle that never accomplishes a single thing.

    WSA itself is a decent AV for its tiny size, but everything else is a real mess...
     
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    What I can't believe is TripleHelix and a few others have quite a few in there believing that WSA is a gift from Heaven, and I'm sorry I'm with you I don't think it's very good at all.
     
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