Battle Which antivirus do I get?

[Vanya123]

Hey guys, I recently got my laptop reinstalled, now which antivirus should I put? I care about security the most and I can afford to pay thats not a problem

 

[Venustus]

Indeed good points
Trying to decide between G Data or Bitdefender on this machine..??

 

[mlnevese]

Indeed good points
Trying to decide between G Data or Bitdefender on this machine..??

Test both, see which one causes less headaches I haven't tested GData as my local market prices are too high... any of the other major vendors offers way better prices here.

 

[Kongo]

Indeed good points
Trying to decide between G Data or Bitdefender on this machine..??

I would have recommended GData if it wasn't such a pain cancelling the subscription. You actually have to send them a letter 30 days before the subscription runs out, stating that you don't want to get it renewed automatically...

 

[Minimalist]

I would have recommended GData if it wasn't such a pain cancelling the subscription. You actually have to send them a letter 30 days before the subscription runs out, stating that you don't want to get it renewed automatically...

What about using PayPal for payment and then cancel subscription there?

 

[blackice]

Indeed good points
Trying to decide between G Data or Bitdefender on this machine..??

For what it’s worth I’m currently running Bitdefender on my gaming machine and I get the highest benchmarks/FPS with it (didn’t try G DATA). RAM isn’t a concern so I’ve kept it for now. My criteria is it has to have less impact on my normal usage than Defender, or there’s no point in a third party. And obviously decent protection scores, but that's pretty much any major vendor including M$. On my other machines I run whatever for fun and curiosity sake.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

I'll keep an eye out..
Shouldn't performance improve over time?
Thanks

That was not the case with G Data, at least for me.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

Indeed good points
Trying to decide between G Data or Bitdefender on this machine..??

Give Bullguard IS a try. It is what I would use on a gaming PC.

 

[Kongo]

What about using PayPal for payment and then cancel subscription there?

Not possible as far as I know...

 

[ForgottenSeer 85179]

First he explains how AVs increase attack surface then he suggests MD. Haha, I like this guy's jokes

MD isn't third-party so it doesn't increase attack surface

 

[blackice]

MD isn't third-party so it doesn't increase attack surface

Yeah, Microsoft just takes YEARS to fix flaws that could be used to deliver malware through MD... Just saying.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

MD isn't third-party so it doesn't increase attack surface

But it is a great target for hackers

 

[Minimalist]

MD isn't third-party so it doesn't increase attack surface

If you disable it you reduce your attack surface so it actually does increase attack surface. There were bugs in past that exploited MD's vulnerabilities to perform RCEs and similar. So for short any AV increases attack surface. Weather it's built in or 3rd party is irrelevant.

EDIT: I found this: RCE Vulnerability Affecting Microsoft Defender | CISA

Microsoft has released a security advisory to address a remote code execution vulnerability, CVE-2021-1647, in Microsoft Defender. A remote attacker can exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system. This vulnerability was detected in exploits in the wild.

EDIT2 (my bolding): Security Update Guide - Microsoft Security Response Center

Microsoft Defender is disabled in my environment, why are vulnerability scanners showing that I am vulnerable to this issue?
Vulnerability scanners are looking for specific binaries and version numbers on devices. Microsoft Defender files are still on disk even when disabled. Systems that have disabled Microsoft Defender are not in an exploitable state.

 

[Tiamati]

3. Bitdefender Total Security

The product shines with great performance and protection and large array of features. However, slower reaction to new threats than the other two opponents + hit and miss performance of ransomware remediation, place this product last with the lowest rating.
Overall Rating: 3.5/5

@Gandalf_The_Grey I agree with everything on the list, but i wonder why he thinks Bitdefender is slow to react to new threats, as like it miss in ransomware remediation

 

[Tiamati]

Interesting.

I have 2 things to say about this video

1) Nice and relaxing music

2) I wonder if those statements also apply to AV extensions like BTL, MBG, etc. (for example: sneaking https content, opening attack surface)

 

[blackice]

@Gandalf_The_Grey I agree with everything on the list, but i wonder why he thinks Bitdefender is slow to react to new threats, as like it miss in ransomware remediation

They don't update their signatures as quickly as Kaspersky and ESET. The HUB testing has reflected this in the last two years. I personally think it's because they rely on their behavior blocker more than they used to.

 

[gery79]

Avast/AVG updates every 3 minutes via stream updates.

It shows that it did a day ago....and the support did not solve it

 

[blackice]

@gery79
You may find this useful.

Advice Request - New Avast Version 21.1.2449 - CyberCapture off by default?

Which scans settings did you change? I set the detection to high and that was it. That seemed to stick with a reboot. Scans | Deep Scan - BOOT UEFI Scans | All Sections - Search for Tools (I think that is the setting, I am not using the english version) Ps: Only the Boot Scan section saved...

malwaretips.com

 

[ErzCrz]

This is why I prefer the Default Deny approach of Hard_Configurator or the auto-containment of Comodo or Vodooshield. Most AVs use cloud analysis. Despite it's lack of program updates, Comodo is still something I revert back to when I'm feeling paranoid but H_C/CD/FWH seems to serve me well. I just need to get around to using CFA.

 

[Kongo]

This is why I prefer the Default Deny approach of Hard_Configurator or the auto-containment of Comodo or Vodooshield. Most AVs use cloud analysis. Despite it's lack of program updates, Comodo is still something I revert back to when I'm feeling paranoid but H_C/CD/FWH seems to serve me well. I just need to get around to using CFA.

Ever tried AppGuard?

 

[mlnevese]

They don't update their signatures as quickly as Kaspersky and ESET. The HUB testing has reflected this in the last two years. I personally think it's because they rely on their behavior blocker more than they used to.

Bitdefender is one of those products that can't be properly tested when you turn off modules, the same applies to ESET. They work similarly in this aspect... Before a malware is allowed to run it must go through web filter, cloud behavior analysis, local behavior analysis and heuristics. Both products behavior analysis needs multiple modules active that monitor distinct parts of the system. Turn them off and you weaken your protection.