- Nov 15, 2012
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MSE do not detect many threadsLittlebits said:Defender said:I Hate Microsoft Security Products MSE,Windows defender, etc.
1.Awful detection rate
2.makes boot time really slow
3.is overall a horrible product and i would not reccomend it
Detection rate based on what, the money influenced AV testing sites?
Many of my customers are fully protected by it and never get infections.
This is the first time I have ever heard MSE/ Windows Defender makes boot time slow, if it does then that means any other AV product would make boot time twice as slow or even more.
I have MSE installed on an old XP system from 2002 with only running a Intel Pentium 4 1.6Mhz and only 256 RAM. No slow down on boot time.
MSE a horrible product based on what?
Read this- Microsoft Security Essentials Is the Number 1 Anti-Virus in the World
The AV testing sites still can not encourage MSE/ Windows Defender users to switch because it does protect them.
I'm sorry a horrible product would not be that popular with users.
People need to stop giving so much credit to AV testing sites because money controls the results not actual facts.
Thanks.
maheshsenadheera said:MSE do not detect many threads
it is never suitable to pc which often use external devices
Detection rate based on what, the money influenced AV testing sites?
Many of my customers are fully protected by it and never get infections.
i think your comment based on money from the microsoft
Biozfear said:If you think MSE doesn't detect many threats, do this test: Run it for 3 months as you would be normally with any solution and then come back with the results and screenshots/logs.
If we are strictly talking about on the wild infections, nothing beats ClamAV in its low detection rates for starters.
MSE is still number 1 solution for Gamers for many reasons and you will hardly see them asking in how to disinfect the system. Most either know how to disinfect in case of an infection or simply don't get infected.
MSE issues is not the detection. It is the slow removal speed (pre-windows 8 version that is since I have not used much the latest version).
There is users across the globe with infections and ask for assistance. They run other solutions for example such as McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky and what not. Why do they get infected? 95% of the time, Solution is not updated and bad browsing habits/running anything that appears on screen without reading properly and the list goes on.. 5%: bad luck.
Not considering the users here who like or dislike some solutions but are advanced in terms of security, majority of the simply go with the flow or are what is called fanboys. This is an indication of inexperience and being biased.
maheshsenadheera said:Biozfear said:If you think MSE doesn't detect many threats, do this test: Run it for 3 months as you would be normally with any solution and then come back with the results and screenshots/logs.
If we are strictly talking about on the wild infections, nothing beats ClamAV in its low detection rates for starters.
MSE is still number 1 solution for Gamers for many reasons and you will hardly see them asking in how to disinfect the system. Most either know how to disinfect in case of an infection or simply don't get infected.
MSE issues is not the detection. It is the slow removal speed (pre-windows 8 version that is since I have not used much the latest version).
There is users across the globe with infections and ask for assistance. They run other solutions for example such as McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky and what not. Why do they get infected? 95% of the time, Solution is not updated and bad browsing habits/running anything that appears on screen without reading properly and the list goes on.. 5%: bad luck.
Not considering the users here who like or dislike some solutions but are advanced in terms of security, majority of the simply go with the flow or are what is called fanboys. This is an indication of inexperience and being biased.
hey im not talking about gamers :dodgy:
we have used MSE in my brother's Net cafe for several months sorry i do not have screen shots so what we need was stop threads coming from external devises bun MSE totaly useless
i must say it didn't detect many of the auto runs,Trojans coming from external devises
Littlebits said:First of all you never connect unknown external devices to your system, you are just asking for an infection. No antivirus will detect everything.
never connect unknown external devicesLittlebits said:maheshsenadheera said:Biozfear said:If you think MSE doesn't detect many threats, do this test: Run it for 3 months as you would be normally with any solution and then come back with the results and screenshots/logs.
If we are strictly talking about on the wild infections, nothing beats ClamAV in its low detection rates for starters.
MSE is still number 1 solution for Gamers for many reasons and you will hardly see them asking in how to disinfect the system. Most either know how to disinfect in case of an infection or simply don't get infected.
MSE issues is not the detection. It is the slow removal speed (pre-windows 8 version that is since I have not used much the latest version).
There is users across the globe with infections and ask for assistance. They run other solutions for example such as McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky and what not. Why do they get infected? 95% of the time, Solution is not updated and bad browsing habits/running anything that appears on screen without reading properly and the list goes on.. 5%: bad luck.
Not considering the users here who like or dislike some solutions but are advanced in terms of security, majority of the simply go with the flow or are what is called fanboys. This is an indication of inexperience and being biased.
hey im not talking about gamers :dodgy:
we have used MSE in my brother's Net cafe for several months sorry i do not have screen shots so what we need was stop threads coming from external devises bun MSE totaly useless
i must say it didn't detect many of the auto runs,Trojans coming from external devises
First of all you never connect unknown external devices to your system, you are just asking for an infection. No antivirus will detect everything.
Second, if using Windows Vista, 7 or 8 autoruns are disabled by default if you have the latest Windows Updates installed. If still using Windows XP, you can manually disable autoruns. When you connect an external device you would have to manually execute the malicious file from Windows Explorer in order to get an infection. Malware just don't execute themselves. Make sure that you have selected scan removable drives in MSE options, it is disabled by default in order to make it light, but still should detect malicious files after you execute them into your system's memory.
Thanks.
maheshsenadheera said:never connect unknown external devices
this is impossible in net cafe
Umbra Corp. said:maheshsenadheera said:never connect unknown external devices
this is impossible in net cafe
All machine on an internet shop must have a kind of virtualization/rollback software:
Deepfreeze, Shadow Defender and co; so every morning when the machines are booted the system is clean even if 100 infected usb were plug in.
Using an AV in a internet shop is useless and slow the system when gaming, Hardcore players need high FPS and lot of RAM.
When my team and me played C-S or WOW in our usual internet shop, we used machines without any security solutions except Deepfreeze and co.
maheshsenadheera said:yep now im using deep freeze with avast free
yes you are correct but antivirus software also important because viruse coming from one devise can infect other