Serious Discussion Which AV are you using and why did you choose this one ??

cofer123

Level 3
Sep 7, 2021
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Currently I'm using ESET Home Security Essential ( Used K7, Bitdefender ) but also I want to use Kaspersky Standard or Plus but confused as I've heard many bad thing & ban about Kaspersky. Anyone please clear my confusion if you're using Kaspersky.
If you are not in the US, Kaspersky continues to work as usual.

You will hear all sort of stories about Kaspersky. Everyone that accuses them of being untrustworthy has never provided actual proof. The story always goes along the lines of "... but if they decide to act maliciously then...", but the same can be said about any other security software. They all operate with high privileges on your computer because that's the only way they are able to do their job.

Kaspersky has existed for decades and it was never involved in any controversies until recently. So far all accusations have not been proven. Meanwhile, other vendors, some even recommended here, have actively engaged in activities like selling user data to third parties. Other vendors that have never been involved in any controversies could be doing that right now and we don't know about it.

Nobody will ever be able to provide you with 100% confidence that a vendor is trustworthy, you have to reach that conclusion on your own. It's a mix of objective and subjective criteria.
 

anirbandutta01

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Jun 18, 2022
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I'm using Eset Nod32 Antivirus. I use it because it's light and it doesn't make much false positive detections. Well exception is it's PUA protection, which can be aggressive so I disable it.
I use antivirus version because I don't need features offered by higher protection plans. I hope that, in future, they don't remove Antivirus version from their offer.
Not sure if they don't remove ESET NOD32 Antivirus in future. It was my first Antivirus in the year of 2012 & I love it. First Love.

If you are not in the US, Kaspersky continues to work as usual.

You will hear all sort of stories about Kaspersky. Everyone that accuses them of being untrustworthy has never provided actual proof. The story always goes along the lines of "... but if they decide to act maliciously then...", but the same can be said about any other security software. They all operate with high privileges on your computer because that's the only way they are able to do their job.

Kaspersky has existed for decades and it was never involved in any controversies until recently. So far all accusations have not been proven. Meanwhile, other vendors, some even recommended here, have actively engaged in activities like selling user data to third parties. Other vendors that have never been involved in any controversies could be doing that right now and we don't know about it.

Nobody will ever be able to provide you with 100% confidence that a vendor is trustworthy, you have to reach that conclusion on your own. It's a mix of objective and subjective criteria.
Okay thanks.

Eset Smart Security Premium 😎
Boss never wrong (y)(y) . How are you? @Shadowra
 

Marko :)

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I use Kaspersky Standard. No bloatware, no crap, straight to the point. All the important modules like Application Control are present. Not a signel issue with compatibility, Windows Update, dtivers, whatsoever. I see many Defender's fanatics claiming Defender is the only true answer since it's built in, while everything else is garbage and brings compatbility issues :ROFLMAO:. Last time I had a buggish experience was 2015 BitDefender. Then BitDefender updated and I never had any issues. Then I used ESET and Norton for quite some time and never experienced slowdowns, compatibility issues or bugs. Now I use Kaspersky and my system runs as smooth as silk.

I did experience issues with Microsoft Defender, such as slow file transfer, delay in opening applications, and several known bugs such as the threat history, quarantine bugs, Controlled Access Folder, and many more.
Look... we're not saying 3rd party antivirus software are garbage. They certainly can protect you. We just see them as unnecessary; especially those "internet security" packages that sell you crap like cleaner, driver updater or 100% not-anonymous VPN. I'm not gonna ignore the fact that antivirus companies are just upselling you stuff you don't really need; all under the term "protection". And their marketing strategy is luring average user to spend money with them.

Do you know how I know Defender is more than enough for 99% of people? I am a member of a lot of forums; what international, what local ones. Back in Windows Vista/7/8(.1) era, we used to have constant requests from people for help cleaning their PCs of malware. Ever since Windows 10 was release, there were less and less topics of same type. Once Windows 10 overtook Windows 7 and 8.1 in marketshare, there wasn't a single topic on any of the forums. In one of them, we had a little community where we discussed about security software. The community essentially died because apparently, no one needs 3rd party software anymore. I have no doubt that the number of users of 3rd party antivirus software also decreased when Defender started being good.

And regarding your little "fun fact". I experienced the same on my old laptop which had Windows 10. On a new laptop, with Windows 11, I can't say I'm experiencing the same. Defender works great and I don't have any slowdowns at all.
 

Captain Awesome

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Exactly same except VIPRE. Also using K7 Regular edition & Want to use Kaspersky Standard or Plus but confused as I've heard many bad thing & ban about Kaspersky.
Don't worry about ban in india near future its totally USA'S mad plan to disturb their usa's consumers with good security solutions. Just use it.
 
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bazang

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Jul 3, 2024
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The community essentially died because apparently, no one needs 3rd party software anymore.
This is true of those with the knowledge and inclination to go to security forums.

The vast majority of average consumer users, do not have that knowledge or inclination.

What Microsoft does not tell you is that against new malware it is no better than 40% go 60% effective for consumers, enterprise, and government. The 40% to 60% range is applicable to all antivirus products against new malware campaigns.

Most home users do not even realize they are infected. If the vast majority of them do not know they are infected, then how are they going to go to an online security forum to report an infection.

A home with children definitely needs something better than default Microsoft Defender. It would be best if there was a knowledgeable parent in the household but that is very unlikely. So the next best option is to have Microsoft manage the device security on behalf of the family with locked down security.
 

ErzCrz

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How many times have I heard you say that? :LOL:
Very true :D It's mostly a bounce between using Comodo and using Windows Defender (I don't have Office365) and I had Emsisoft which I won and used most of last year. I did, for awhile, consistently use H_C, WD, CD, FWH but having grabbed CL at the start if this year, that derailed H_C as an option. Emsisoft I also stuck with for a good portion of the year I won it. /shrug
 

Vitali Ortzi

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Game Of Thrones

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I don't like Eset. I don't like AVs that depend on a single technology, signatures.
Bro, you totally need to rethink and do more research about how antiviruses work. there is no more signature detection like in the old days there are many technologies that are helping the signatures like fuzzy hashing, etc with enough samples and feeding them to machine learning and creating a core detection(eset calls this DNA detection) you can detect many variants and even heavily modified malware. Just look at how Eset performs in advanced malware detection tests using miter, fileless, and targeted attacks. you have to be good at engine development to detect and defend from this kind of malware which eset Kaspersky and Bitdefender in terms of home edition products are the kings of sophisticated attack detection. I encourage you to do some research, there are some good whitepapers and websites on the internet to start with. you can start with this link from the eset website ESET multilayered cybersecurity technology

this shows why eset is good at detecting malware on execution actually one of the fastest, its memory scanner and other techs are working after the execution, and with the help of DNA and other techs they can detect malware at pre-execution and on-execution stages. This is why you see most of the time eset reacts to malware faster than Kaspersky because Kaspersky is now actually a behavior-based antivirus and this is why you see many post-execution detections from Kaspersky in advanced tests(miter attacks etc)
((the execution stages: pre-execution , on-execution , post-execution)
 

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