Serious Discussion Which AV from a privacy respecting perspective ??

[Vitali Ortzi]

AVs by default go against respecting privacy because they have to be intrusive.

If you want to avoid that, then you will have to take on the role of an AV. That is, at best the AV downloads signatures and some means to detect unusual behavior. If it can't explain something that happens and is not allowed to go online, then it will inform you, the user. From there, you have to go over the logs and see what is taking place, and from there figure out what to delete or quarantine, and so on.

It's like that news about repair people viewing personal data and even copying them:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-tech-repair-snooping-1.7000775

If you want to avoid that, and if they can bypass passwords by, for example, loading the device using another system, and then from there access the protected folders, then you'll have to backup the drive and factory-reset the device or have the drive or storage pulled out and given to you before they start repairing the machine.

And if it's a software problem then they'll have to repair the device in front of you, or something like that.

I think only enterprise products configured to be run isolated are truly privacy friendly
One I would recommend as it has really good behavior blocker is Symantec

Although if you don't have an issue allowing some data collection you could benefit a lot and it does generally collect less data then gen digitalsome vendors

If you uncheck the telemetry

 

[badboy]

In case people are wondering, FSB stands for "Fantastic Security Brand"!

If anyone is interested, FSB stands for Federal Security Service (transcription: Federalnaya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti or on cyrylic: Федеральная Служба Безопасности). Analogous to the FBI.

 

[badboy]

I like what you say about paying attention and choosing who to trust. That is solid advice that more need to hear!

I don't agree with some of the messaging in the world these days that we have already lost our privacy and that there is not much we can do. There are reasonable mitigations to significantly reduce many of the privacy threats that have been brought up so far.

Again, I do not see it as a black and white thing - as if you either have privacy or you don't. I feel like in today's technology landscape, a lot of people have just traded privacy for convenience, then rationalized the decision. But many of the mitigations are not even that difficult.

My friends, have faith. Keep fighting!

I agree with you. What I meant was that you don't have to get completely paranoid about it. You just need to keep information hygiene as much as possible, but don't spoil your enjoyment of modern technology.

 

[simmerskool]

Liveguard actually puts the malware inside a sandbox and emulates it in the cloud so it's far more advanced then livegrid and comparable to what zonealarm does as checkpoint has a similar technology called threat emulation



Actually that's one of the reasons I really love checkpoint and eset as I believe cloud emulation is an important layer

based on my personal experience, Harmony's threat emulation is superior to ESET's LiveGuard, although my experience with LiveGuard is dated by 12 to 18 months...

 

[Vitali Ortzi]

based on my personal experience, Harmony's threat emulation is superior to ESET's LiveGuard, although my experience with LiveGuard is dated by 12 to 18 months...

my experience as well harmony ,zonealarm threat emulation is superior to eset

 

[Sandbox Breaker - DFIR]

my experience as well harmony ,zonealarm threat emulation is superior to eset

Harmony does have amongst the best cloud detonation.

 

[RoboMan]

What is your primary concern about antivirus data collection?

 

[Sandbox Breaker - DFIR]

What is your primary concern about antivirus data collection?

For a second I thought you were the bot asking a question.

 

[Oldie1950]

For a second I thought you were the bot asking a question.

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[Sandbox Breaker - DFIR]

Bot doesn't ask questions. Bot knows everything!

One would hope