App Review CheckPoint Harmony vs DeepInstinct Endpoint

[ShenguiTurmi]

Thats everything people have to know. Harmony is definitely more complete. DI only protects against malware, while it can't protect you from phishing and other attacks. When using Deep Instinct you should also rely on an external web-protection addon or secure DNS. If you only look for a strong, simple and light protection against malware, then Deep Instinct won't disappoint you. So it depends on the use case. I am a gamer so Deep Instinct feels like the perfect solution for me.

I have tried DeepInstinct on my gaming PC. if you turn on almost all the protections like shadowra in the test, I am afraid there is no way to play the game. the behavioral protection of DI detects steamapi.dll as reflex dll injection and intercepts it. I would prefer to use DI in conjunction with other solutions for work (and I am doing so) and generate almost no false alarms.

 

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I have tried DeepInstinct on my gaming PC. if you turn on almost all the protections like shadowra in the test, I am afraid there is no way to play the game. the behavioral protection of DI detects steamapi.dll as reflex dll injection and intercepts it. I would prefer to use DI in conjunction with other solutions for work (and I am doing so) and generate almost no false alarms.

eSentire and Deep Instinct partner to Bolster Cybersecurity Defense.

 

[simmerskool]

I have tried DeepInstinct on my gaming PC. if you turn on almost all the protections like shadowra in the test, I am afraid there is no way to play the game. the behavioral protection of DI detects steamapi.dll as reflex dll injection and intercepts it. I would prefer to use DI in conjunction with other solutions for work (and I am doing so) and generate almost no false alarms.

I have an app that Di saw as reflex dll injection (false+) and I created a very narrow exception for that policy for that specific app and now it runs as intended.

 

[likeastar20]

Most of the time when I check a file on virustotal, Deepinstinct is there. The AI is very aggressive and generates a lot of FPs from what I've seen

 

[simmerskool]

Most of the time when I check a file on virustotal, Deepinstinct is there. The AI is very aggressive and generates a lot of FPs from what I've seen

? I have had 1 false+ in the past 42 days (that on my physical win10 -- I am using VM most of the time) so perhaps not many changes or additions on my hard win10.

 

[Kongo]

Most of the time when I check a file on virustotal, Deepinstinct is there. The AI is very aggressive and generates a lot of FPs from what I've seen

No fp with static AI but it's behavioural blocking can be pretty noisy sometimes. That's true.

 

[Trident]

But comparing DeepInstinct to Harmony as this thread is about Harmony vs DI, Harmony for me has been totally free from false positives except one, where Dell had forgotten to sign their executable and it was blocked by Anti-Ransomware.

I wasn’t that lucky when I deployed DI on business machines first, within hour of deployment tickets and calls started, people were complaining about detections that appear “out of the blue” without doing anything. It took weeks to clear it all out, until I finally gave up and put DI on a much more mild and quiet setup. On a business environment where not all software is “top notch” DI can be quite noisy.

The initial feedback now about Harmony (I’ve deployed it on 7-8 business machines to see how it will go) is much more positive. People haven’t realised there was a change of security software.
They also haven’t realised documents are passing through a threat extraction process at all.

 

[cartaphilus]

But comparing DeepInstinct to Harmony as this thread is about Harmony vs DI, Harmony for me has been totally free from false positives except one, where Dell had forgotten to sign their executable and it was blocked by Anti-Ransomware.

I wasn’t that lucky when I deployed DI on business machines first, within hour of deployment tickets and calls started, people were complaining about detections that appear “out of the blue” without doing anything. It took weeks to clear it all out, until I finally gave up and put DI on a much more mild and quiet setup. On a business environment where not all software is “top notch” DI can be quite noisy.

The initial feedback now about Harmony (I’ve deployed it on 7-8 business machines to see how it will go) is much more positive. People haven’t realised there was a change of security software.
They also haven’t realised documents are passing through a threat extraction process at all

Is harmony available for home deployment?

 

[simmerskool]

Is harmony available for home deployment?

Yes, I have Harmony on win10_VM from reseller in UK. Been working great, and you can pay monthly! @Trident knows more.

 

[Xeno1234]

Is harmony available for home deployment?

Yeah - its also actually pretty cheap. For me at least since im in the US, its around 50 dollars a year. Its cheaper than my current AV which is Kaspersky Premium.

 

[simmerskool]

Yeah - its also actually pretty cheap. For me at least since im in the US, its around 50 dollars a year. Its cheaper than my current AV which is Kaspersky Premium.

who is your reseller in US, do you have URL link?

 

[Xeno1234]

who is your reseller in US, do you have URL link?

I dont have the link, its on the checkpoint harmony thread that Trident made.

 

[Trident]

Yeah - its also actually pretty cheap. For me at least since im in the US, its around 50 dollars a year. Its cheaper than my current AV which is Kaspersky Premium.

Depends on where you will buy Kaspersky from.

Kaspersky Premium 2024- 1-Year / 10-Device – Americas – Global ESD

globalesd.com

 

[Xeno1234]

Depends on where you will buy Kaspersky from.

Kaspersky Premium 2024- 1-Year / 10-Device – Americas – Global ESD

globalesd.com

Im saying from the official website, its 100 USD for 3 devices. Thats a pretty nice deal there.

 

[cartaphilus]

Thats everything people have to know. Harmony is definitely more complete. DI only protects against malware, while it can't protect you from phishing and other attacks. When using Deep Instinct you should also rely on an external web-protection addon or secure DNS. If you only look for a strong, simple and light protection against malware, then Deep Instinct won't disappoint you. So it depends on the use case. I am a gamer so Deep Instinct feels like the perfect solution for me.

I am also a gamer. Currently I have it paired with my 5 year old laptop that I do work stuff on and I don't feel any slowdown. The laptop used to run Fsecure trial but now runs defender and DI and honestly it feels the same.

Now my gaming system has eset premium so I wonder if I were to add DI to it would it slow it down or conflict? I know that DI manual has Symantec, MS Defender and Trend Micro configuration directions within its deployment manual so DI is expected to run on top of those solutions or rather along side of them.

 

[Xeno1234]

I am also a gamer. Currently I have it paired with my 5 year old laptop that I do work stuff on and I don't feel any slowdown. The laptop used to run Fsecure trial but now runs defender and DI and honestly it feels the same.

Now my gaming system has eset premium so I wonder if I were to add DI to it would it slow it down or conflict? I know that DI manual has Symantec, MS Defender and Trend Micro configuration directions within its deployment manual so DI is expected to run on top of those solutions or rather along side of them.

I dont think DI would be good to run with ESET. It is it's own AV.

 

[cartaphilus]

@Shadowra
So, wanna wait 5 minutes or you prefer to open everything with full speed?

Tell that to Karen in HR who will complain to the boss that the report.doc.exe is taking too long to download due to the new security solution. Or tell it to the CEO that his LolitaBoysConnect.exe file is being sandboxed because it's suspicious and not to worry since 5 min wait for prevention is worth months wasted in remediation.

 

[Trident]

Tell that to Karen in HR who will complain to the boss that the report.doc.exe is taking too long to download due to the new security solution. Or tell it to the CEO that his LolitaBoysConnect.exe file is being sandboxed because it's suspicious and not to worry since 5 min wait for prevention is worth months wasted in remediation.

I am using it at work already and nobody is complaining. And it doesn’t even take 5 minutes, it is barely even 2. Karen from HR will be unable to download report.doc.exe, because exe downloads are completely blocked. The CEO doesn’t understand remediation but understands loss of business as well as GBP 20 million/4% of last year’s profit (whichever is greater). Or prosecution.

 

[cartaphilus]

It's all fun and good but in reality is Harmony and Deep Instinct AI as powerful as the Webroot Cloud AI?! I mean even the most powerful AI is yet to understand how Webroot runs!

 

[Trident]

It's all fun and good but in reality is Harmony and Deep Instinct AI as powerful as the Webroot Cloud AI?! I mean even the most powerful AI is yet to understand how Webroot runs!

No, I’m afraid the Webroot power can’t be matched. For best security, best to install Webroot and forget about all malware, APTs, Phishing and other worries today. Webroot — secure your deepest root (TM). For even better protection, it can also be combined with cruelsister Comodo. This setup is suitable to protect even organisations of JP Morgan and Apple scale.