- May 10, 2019
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Hello! I am considering changing the security product on family's PCs and I have narrowed it down to those two vendors. Please enlighten me.
@Seyyed Akram
About that shown as a screenshot (quite huge ) is a fraud check that happens sometimes. You can get in touch with Emsisoft support to get it fixed asap. (sales{at}emsisoft.com) -> Send us an email
@XLR8R
Suites are suites in that case an AiO solution - More Bloatware then AV for my taste. It may be super easy to use but consider that on a modern system like Windows 10 Pro you end up not needing a single one except for an AV alternative if needed. (If Windows Defender is not sufficient for you...)
In the end of the day it is the choice of OP and with what you feel more comfortable with. In terms of cost that is in relation to how important you think your data is and if the protection provided is sufficient. From my PoV is that the first line of defense should always be your router or better yet firewall/appliance. ^^ But that is a topic for another day
Sincerely
Val.
To be honest, what I have observed is that keeping Windows properly updated (even the programs) goes a long way towards not getting infected.
But I have observed many users who turn off the updates or delay it, finding it annoying or perceiving that such background update will hurt the performance of the system. Windows 10 makes it much better, but you can still stop it from updating.
For example, I work in an organization that still has computers on Windows 7 and 8.1, and many employees disable update functionality using various methods with the assumption that it boosts performance.
In such cases, security programs that pretty much silent install the critical security fixes (at least) are a godsend. I hence see where such features could come in handy for organizations and even consumers.
Of course, router/firewall is a good solution, but most home users and even SMB you find will go for the cheapest hardware available and not the best. Let's just say, the firmware and firewall configuration of certain Chinese routers and appliances can be very frustrating....
P. S. BullGuard's game booster does work - you need at least 4 logical cores and a GPU more powerful than the CPU can handle to see the difference....
What is normal? cleverbridge ? yes, it is selling/payment platform used by many companies and Emsisoft as well.I have placed my order but is this the norm?
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Cleverbridge is legit.@Seyyed Akram
About that shown as a screenshot (quite huge ) is a fraud check that happens sometimes. You can get in touch with Emsisoft support to get it fixed asap. (sales{at}emsisoft.com) -> Send us an email
Not exactly true, Emsi house engine is more focused on 0-days while BD is more about already detected and prevalent malware, when BD update its database to include signatures previously covered by Emsi engine, those signature doublons are cleaned up from Emsi DB.If you only consider only for malware detection then both are dependent on bitdefender signature based engine.
vulvaris said:About the Windows 7 and Win 8.1 Systems in a corp. environment ill call it bad administration - Why? - If you have them joined in a Windows Domain (Active Directory) and update your global catalog to the build versions needed you should be able to prevent such settings to be changed! Update properly with reports from your WSUS and even use build-in methods to enforce it.
vulvaris said:(The State provides a "like a coupon" if you purchase new things "Firewalls and so on for SMBs") GDPR / DSGVO
vulvaris said:Best way for me I noticed use Build-In as much as possible and you save allot more money...
Good offer.Cancelled Emsisoft order and purchased Bullguard Internet Security 4-year subscription for 5 devices for $17.6 on eBay.
The seller sent photos of Newegg cards. Activated successfully and the price is unbeatable.Good offer.
You know, you don't have to explain me about how Emsisoft manage their database. I was an Emsisoft employee.That is true, because no av vendor one wants to overload their software with malware database and in turn slow down user system. Well, but in some cases where i have noted after downlading around 5,00,000 from both virushshare.com & virussign.com and testing them in VM just for a sake of testing many other av too, it has been seen (in this case between emsisoft & bitdefender) even if the bitdefender detects a particular sample , and emsisoft also detects it, then it is totally upto emsisoft whether they want to use the detection name of their own or bitdefender, but in most cases they have used bitdefenders name only.
You know, you don't have to explain me about how Emsisoft manage their database. I was an Emsisoft employee.
I explained earlier, if a signature is common to both engines, the BD engine will keep it and the Emsi engine will be cleaned.
1- to lighten the footprint.1-But, why Emsisoft drops their own detection and just user BD's detection name?
2-I am not experienced in that regard but does not Emsisoft have complete control over BD detection? I mean they could possibly not include the Bitdefender detection and just keep their own?
3- Do Emsisoft detections have generic names like Bitdefender's? I know that Emsisoft's engine is focused on specifically Pups but why do not they focus more on their engine and possibly eventually dropping Bitdefender's engine and relying %100 on their own engine?
I'm not the right one to ask this, I wasn't on the dev team. However their support forum is better suited to answer you. It could be the Emsi DB wasn't t cleaned up yet, or the malware slightly different despite being on the same family.Thanks for the info, I respect your words, I will privately message you the sample or the VT link and then let me know if both emsi and bitdefender detect the sample, then why did emsisoft still kept its name instead of bitdefender. I think you being an ex employee of emsisoft will be able to provide correct information regarding that.
Pricing is a very important factor for me. Anyway, I have reinstalled Bullguard and raised the protection bar to Maximum. Protected Bullguard's settings with Bullguard Account password (very important because family members tend to exclude infected files). The Secure Browser and Game Booster are good additions. Most importantly, Bullguard is much lighter than Emsisoft. No browser extension required and no startup delay. I am pretty sure Emsisoft would offer slightly better protection but that would never mean Bullguard is weak. We're at home and not at a financial institution targeted by hackers and whatsoever. All PCs are backed up to external hdds on a weekly basis and important files are synced to One Drive.
The seller sent photos of Newegg cards. Activated successfully and the price is unbeatable.
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But why Emsisoft drops their own detection and just user BD's detection name? I am not experienced in that regard but does not Emsisoft have complete control over BD detection? I mean they could possibly not include the Bitdefender detection and just keep their own? Do Emsisoft detections have generic names like Bitdefender's? I know that Emsisoft's engine is focused on specifically Pups but why do not they focus more on their engine and possibly eventually dropping Bitdefender's engine and relying %100 on their own engine?
'There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey'
John Ruskin
Not enough resources indeed, Expertise, they have it. The lead dev is among the best dev in the planet.Emsisoft has very less employees compared to even BullGuard, and hardly has the resources or expertise (remember it's history as an Anti-Trojan developer) to sustain a full-fledged engine.