Battle Firefox vs. Brave vs. Vivaldi

Which browser—Firefox, Brave, or Vivaldi—is your favorite?

  • Firefox

    Votes: 38 45.2%
  • Brave

    Votes: 35 41.7%
  • Vivaldi

    Votes: 11 13.1%

  • Total voters
    84
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Firefox vs. Brave vs. Vivaldi
Platform(s)
  1. Any platform
I would like to add Samsung Internet Browser for android comparison to the above browsers

- Has some privacy protection built-in
- Has a list of adblockers as addons
- Smart Anti-Tracking: This feature is enabled by default and blocks cookies and third-party trackers that attempt to collect personal information.
- No support for chrome://flags
- Cannot import/export bookmarks from/to a html file. Bookmarks are synced from Samsung Browser from PC/laptop just like Edge browser. Alternatively, need to create individual group and add bookmarks
- Does not support split view (multi windows) for a fold phone for now. With the release of Samsung UI 9 later this year multi-windows (split view) likely to be supported. The current UI version of Samsung Internet Browser for android is 8.5
- Support multi-tabbing
- Multi-tabbing shown on the inner screen only
- No stacked tabbing support
- Has a Bookmark Bar and supported on the front and inner screens

In terms of usability features I would place it comparable with Vivaldi. Security-wise FF/Brave browsers are still the best

With BitDefender Mobile Security - Edge, FF, Samsung, Brave browsers etc are supported for its Web Protection. Vivaldi, however, is not supported.
 
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I voted for Brave. Very impressed with it lately and is recently a go to browser. Firefox is also a favorite for years.

Question, is there any new browsers or any similar to Brave worth installing ? (I multi-task a lot) usually have 2-3 browsers open.

I use these three browsers the most, Vivaldi, Firefox, Brave.

Sometimes I use,
Slimjet, Opera.

Trending news,
Edge

Discontinued,
Iron Chrome, Torch, SlimBoat.
(Haven't used in some years)
 
I switched to firefox a few months ago, I still like vivaldi, very much, The built in customization options are amzing, But I started having some issues with slower browsing speeds vs other browsers, also some sites colors werent displaying correctly (using dark reader) So I switched to firefox. I love the ability to use custom .css to completely theme out firefox. I also am using a ESR release so it doesnt update every few weeks risking breaking the custom .css theme

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Firefox browser

- Secure and privacy-oriented
- Can strengthen FF by accessing Preferences through its about:config
- Can install extensions
- Can import bookmarks from a html file
- Does not support split view (multi windows) for a fold phone
- Support multi-tabbing but not stacked tabbing
- Contains trackers
- Has telemtry to call home. Need to disable for better privacy

Brave browser

- Secure and privacy-oriented
- Can access flags using brave://flags
- Can import bookmarks from a html file
- As of now Brave browser does not support split view (multi windows) for android even though the feature can be enabled in the browser.
- Support multi-tabbing but not stacked tabbing. Only grid view supported. Multi-tabbing not supported on the front screen, only on the inner screen
- Very easy to import bookmarks and bookmarks are automatically arranged into their respective groups in the bookmark bar
- Bookmark bar not display on the front screen, only the inner screen. Need to go to Bookmark Folder to look for the bookmarks
- No extension support
- Can block YT ads by default
- No trackers
- Has telemtry to call home. Need to disable for better privacy

Vivaldi browser

- Secure and privacy-oriented but not as great as Brave/Firefox browsers
- Can access flags using vivaldi://flags
- Can import bookmarks from a html file
- Supports split view (multi windows) for a fold phone
- Support multi-tabbing and stacked tabbing
- Multi-tabbing and stacked tabbing supported on the front and inner screens
- No extension support
- Not easy to deal with bookmarks. Bookmarks are imported into a 'Imported Bookmarks' folder. Need to extract to individual group. If any folder in the 'Imported Bookmarks' folder or the entire 'Imported Bookmarks' folder is deleted afterwards then the group(s) will be deleted. Keep the 'Imported Bookmarks' folder and all the groups will be kept. Only way out to have persistence is to create the groups individually and add the bookmarks.
- No bookmark bar support
- Definitely easier to use than Brave
- Cannot block YT ads by default
- No trackers
- Has telemtry to call home. Need to disable for better privacy
- Uses Google DNS Service by default

Samsung Internet Browser

- Has some privacy protection built-in
- Has a list of adblockers as addons
- Smart Anti-Tracking: This feature is enabled by default and blocks cookies and third-party trackers that attempt to collect personal information.
- No support for chrome://flags
- Cannot import/export bookmarks from/to a html file. Bookmarks are synced from Samsung Browser from PC/laptop just like Edge browser. Alternatively, need to create individual group and add bookmarks
- Does not support split view (multi windows) for a fold phone for now. With the release of Samsung UI 9 later this year multi-windows (split view) likely to be supported. The current UI version of Samsung Internet Browser for android is 8.5
- Support multi-tabbing
- Multi-tabbing shown on the inner screen only
- No stacked tabbing support
- Has a Bookmark Bar and supported on the front and inner screens
- Has trackers
- Has telemtry to call home. Need to disable for better privacy

For those browsers which cannot block YT ads one can use

- Surfshark VPN with its Clean Web feature
- Adguard for Android (It uses a VPN slot so one cannot use another 3rd-party VPN. It works with Adguard VPN though)
- Rethink DNS with Firewall (Works through 3rd-party VPN with Wireguard + proxy)
- Netguard Firewall (Works through 3rd-party VPN with personalDNSfilter + SOCKS5 proxy)
Privacy guide: Netguard + personalDNSfilter + VPN
- TrackerControl as described above

I believe some browser telemetery can be blocked using NextDNS or similar DNS services
 
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Out of curiosity, which you don't like or miss when using Firefox, Brave, or Vivaldi browsers that make you always go back to use Microsoft Edge or Google Chrome?
FF for me the speed and the idiotic design of bookmarks page (just neet to open bookmarks in a new tab like chromium browsers).
Vivaldi sometimes feel slow, also idiotic bookmarks tab, no downloads page (only the drop-down menu).
Brave is good, but its landmark (adblocker) is equal to Ghostery and both lag behind uBOL, and the multiple settings I do not completely understand and I do not know if I have completely disabled or they just running in background.
 
FF for me the speed and the idiotic design of bookmarks page (just neet to open bookmarks in a new tab like chromium browsers).
Vivaldi sometimes feel slow, also idiotic bookmarks tab, no downloads page (only the drop-down menu).
Brave is good, but its landmark (adblocker) is equal to Ghostery and both lag behind uBOL, and the multiple settings I do not completely understand and I do not know if I have completely disabled or they just running in background.
So if privacy isn't a concern, Microsoft Edge + uBOL outperforms them?
 
In order not to start another browser comparison thread I'm adding Ungoogled Chromium vs Helium vs Brave browsers. If mod/TS finds it needs another thread can move this


Below is my comparison. Nothing really new as the pointers are available on the net. They are not mainstream browsers so expect some sites might not work properly.

Summary

If you want an aggressive, minimal de-Googled Chromium with lower RAM use and no crypto or telemetry baggage, Helium currently looks the most user-friendly option; if you want out-of-the-box privacy tooling plus convenience features (Tor windows, sync, a built-in wallet and ad-earnings), Brave remains the polished mainstream pick; if you want the purest reduction of Google dependencies and are comfortable with manual updates and missing conveniences, Ungoogled Chromium is the most minimal, dev-oriented choice.

Ungoogled Chromium (UG)

Pros

- Ungoogled Chromium is a privacy-enhanced version of Google Chromium that removes deep integration with Google services and enhances user control and transparency. It aims to provide a web browsing experience focused on privacy and freedom from Google's tracking mechanisms.
- Of all the ungoogled chromium flavors UG (Eloston Github) is the best for a degoogled chromium browser.
- Allows the use of extensions to strengthen the browser’s privacy and security
- There’s zero telemetry to block from calling home
- No bloatware to remove

Use flags to set fingerprinting protection
- Canvas::measureText() fingerprint deception
- Canvas image data fingerprint deception
- ClientRects() fingerprint deception

Cons

- Release slower than Helium
- No built-in ads/trackers protection so reduced privacy
- Minimal built-in fingerprinting protection (minimal anonymity) with a few flag settings. Will need extra extensions to enhance its fingerprinting (anonymity) protection e.g. Font Fingerprinting Defender etc
- Extensions downloaded directly from Chrome Web Store are not proxied through any external server i.e. will be tracked by Google
- Use of extensions increases the attack surface, and compromised extensions are a risk
- Does not block ads on YouTube by default
- No built-in auto-update but can use a script e.g. from NeverDecaf repository
- When I clicked on a YT video in MWT forums it gives me Error 153 - Video player configuration error. I need to open the link externally for it to play.
- Still need Dark Reader extension to settle between showing alert icons clearly on MWT forums and displaying all web contents in dark mode for web pages. The two default dark mode flag settings cannot handle both issues at the same time
- No Android version


Helium

Pros

- Based on Ungoogled Chromium (Eloston Github) so is a privacy-enhanced browser that removes deep integration with Google services and enhances user control and transparency. It aims to provide a web browsing experience focused on privacy and freedom from Google's tracking mechanisms.
- Releases faster than Ungoogled Chromium
- There’s zero telemetry to block from calling home since it’s based on Ungoogled Chromium (Eloston Github)
- Allows the use of extensions to strengthen the browser’s privacy. Extensions from Chrome Web Store are proxied through their servers. No need to set flag “Handling of extension MIME type requests”
- Has the full uBlock Origin extension (not uBO Lite) built-in thus has ads/trackers protection
- Block YouTube ads using default filters
- Has slightly better fingerprinting protection through enabling flag settings (e.g. audiocontext, randomize number of CPU cores etc)
- Speed-wise I find it faster than UG
- No bloatware to remove
- Built-in auto-update…………still in progress
- The Android Helium Browser below on Github based on Helium and Vanadium looks promising with extensions support and built-in WebRTC Leak protection



Use flags to set fingerprinting protection
- Canvas::measureText() fingerprint deception
- ClientRects() fingerprint deception
- Canvas pixel noising
- Jitter audio context data
- Randomize number of CPU cores

Cons

- Will need extra extensions to enhance its fingerprinting (anonymity) protection e.g. Font Fingerprinting Defender etc
- Use of extensions increases the attack surface, and compromised extensions are a risk
- When I clicked on a YT video in MWT forums it gives me Error 153 - Video player configuration error. I need to open the link externally for it to play
- Still need Dark Reader extension to settle between showing alert icons clearly on MWT forums and displaying all web contents in dark mode for web pages. The two default dark mode flag settings cannot handle both issues at the same time


For both UG and Helium can add extensions to further enhance their fingerprinting protection like

- WebRTC Leak Shield
- WebGPU Fingerprint Defender
- Font Fingerprint Defender
- Disable Battery API (from Github)


Brave

Pros

- Rated as the best chromium browser for unmatched privacy and protection
- Has Degoogling but is not as great as UG.
- Brave has its own servers, and many Google endpoints are proxied through them e.g. SafeBrowsing
- Unless seriously needed (like enhancing privacy blocking of ads/trackers, special functionalities that Brave don’t provide, extensions like password manager etc.) otherwise it’s not required to add extra extensions/filter blocklists for the built-ins are adequate for normal use. Additional improvement in privacy through extra extensions/filter blocklists only cause the browser to be less anonymous from other Brave users.
- Has strong defense against fingerprinting thus better anonymity
- Blocks ads on YouTube by default
- Has auto update of browser
- No issue to play YT video inside MWT forums
- No issue with showing alert icons in MWT forums clearly and displaying web contents for webpages in dark mode using its default dark mode setting
- Has its Android version

Cons


- Has no extension web store of its own. Extensions from Chrome Web Store are not proxied through Brave servers thus using them will be tracked by Google
- Comes with some bloatware like Brave VPN, Wallet, Rewards, News, Talk, Sync, Tor, Leo AI Chat
- Brave has telemetry which calls home. Can block them for greater privacy though.

Some fingerprintings protected against by Brave are listed and shown below


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More fingerprint protection by Brave here

 
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@Harborftont thanks for the overview, one question how can Helium provide releases faster than unGoogled when it is based on UnGoogled?

Yes, I was also puzzled at first until I monitored their past releases from the below. As of now



Chromium 148.0.7778.167
 
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While both Brave and Firefox are privacy-focused browsers, Vivaldi is more focused on productivity and customization. I would like to know if Vivaldi users use it primarily for these purposes or if they only use it as a browser with all of its special features turned off.

I use Brave/Helium/UG on my Windows desktop. Likely will replace UG by Helium as my main browser later. Brave will be as a backup. Vivaldi for Windows is not as privacy focus as Brave although one can install extensions for it

On my fold phone I use Brave/Vivaldi/Helium for android. Brave has an issue with displaying MWT icon alerts since it don't support Dark Reader extension. Helium (with Dark Reader extension) and Vivaldi have no issue. So mainly use the latter two since they are more UI user friendly
 
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While both Brave and Firefox are privacy-focused browsers, Vivaldi is more focused on productivity and customization. I would like to know if Vivaldi users use it primarily for these purposes or if they only use it as a browser with all of its special features turned off.
I prefer Vivaldi for its customization and overall feel. I use some of its unique features, like the auto-hide side and status panels, and remove the address bar, i.e., tabs next to it.