I do not; just miss this old, good engine; maintenance is expensive.
Firefox vs. Brave vs. Vivaldi
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I'm not sure about other websites, but I saw the difference today when I went to GitHub to look at a software's release notes. Firefox was loading too slowly.Great callDo you know of another site that is loaded with ads, to use for general testing?
I can feel the difference in speed between Gecko and Chromium easily, only that between variable Chromium browsers is sometimes hard to notice.
The Speedometer 3.1 test is important, but you should also evaluate the parameter highlighted by the red arrow to assess the loading speed of web pages in the various browsers you want to choose.
Although DCL is usually directly proportional to the Speedometer 3.1 test.
P.S.
I forgot the arrow....now it's there.
Although DCL is usually directly proportional to the Speedometer 3.1 test.
P.S.
I forgot the arrow....now it's there.
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Yahoo.comGreat call
"Winner" thank you, oldschool
Did not visit since 1999; my early days of using internet love.
And I had totally forgotten about that one, to even consider looking for it (Yahoo.com). But remember Ask Jeeves.
And I remember on the website just before he left, was a caption, "I'm going on a little coffee break for a while", or something like thatYahoo Finance is even worse.
Jeeves was fired!
And then was promptly fired
There is a famous Arabic proverb that says: How do you recognize a lie? By its exaggeration.And I remember on the website just before he left, was a caption, "I'm going on a little coffee break for a while", or something like that
And then was promptly fired
The most useful part of these comparisons is that they make it clear there’s no perfect browser, only different options depending on the user’s profile. The real value lies in understanding the trade-offs between privacy, security, and usability, and making a choice with intention instead of just following the crowd.
But it took 27 min to convey this message?
He talked about almost every niche browser as well apart from the popular ones.But it took 27 min to convey this message?
Thank you so much, @Khushal. This guy introduced me to the world of privacy for the first time, and it's a pleasure to watch this video now.
I only watch the sections about the browsers that interest me; I estimate that each browser will take about five minutes, which is not bad.But it took 27 min to convey this message?
This thread is becoming like every previous one where we talked about web browsers and that is finding the BEST web browser. Let me tell you something immediately—there isn't the best one! Every single web browser excels in different area.
No one is denying that out of all browser engines, Chromium (Blink) supports the most web standards; this is also what makes it fast. The only reason why they could do this is because they have HUGE team behind the project and because Google practically controls entire internet. If Google wasn't behind the Chromium, I guarantee, its web standard support would be on the level of Mozilla's Gecko or even Opera's ex. Presto. So the only reason why Chromium is so good at compatibility is Google which monopoly literally develops and mandates which web standards will be used and which wouldn't.
Now... when choosing your web browser of choice, you can't only look at support for web standards, you have to look at other areas as well. And this is where competition (the only real competition), Mozilla shines. We can argue as much as we want, but the truth is there isn't a single web browser on the market that is customizable to the extend Mozilla's Firefox is. Yes, Firefox even surpasses Vivaldi in that question. And I'm not even talking about UI customization (that is completely possible on Firefox); I'm talking about how the browser itself works and functions. This is something you simply don't get with Chrome or any other Chromium browser. What ever you want Firefox to do, it simply can by tweaking about:config settings.
For me personally, the thing that matters the most to me when choosing a web browser is ad blocking, privacy and control. Support for web standards is still high on the list, but definitely not on the level of those three. Why? 99% of the websites use web standards that are completely supported by major web browsers. The 1% is those benchmark sites that use experimental web standards still in development. Google is usually developer of those so it makes sense that Chromium would be the first to implement them despite not being finished. Mozilla prefers to implement new web standards once they become finished and widespread as there's not really a reason to implement them before when they could focus workforce to more important things. Mozilla doesn't have as much as workforce as Google does so they have to focus on a few things at a time instead of 1.000.
After using Firefox for close than a year now, I still haven't found a website that doesn't work in it. And even if it loaded websites 20ms slower, I rather take that then reduced ad blocking functionality and sacrifice privacy.
No one is denying that out of all browser engines, Chromium (Blink) supports the most web standards; this is also what makes it fast. The only reason why they could do this is because they have HUGE team behind the project and because Google practically controls entire internet. If Google wasn't behind the Chromium, I guarantee, its web standard support would be on the level of Mozilla's Gecko or even Opera's ex. Presto. So the only reason why Chromium is so good at compatibility is Google which monopoly literally develops and mandates which web standards will be used and which wouldn't.
Now... when choosing your web browser of choice, you can't only look at support for web standards, you have to look at other areas as well. And this is where competition (the only real competition), Mozilla shines. We can argue as much as we want, but the truth is there isn't a single web browser on the market that is customizable to the extend Mozilla's Firefox is. Yes, Firefox even surpasses Vivaldi in that question. And I'm not even talking about UI customization (that is completely possible on Firefox); I'm talking about how the browser itself works and functions. This is something you simply don't get with Chrome or any other Chromium browser. What ever you want Firefox to do, it simply can by tweaking about:config settings.
For me personally, the thing that matters the most to me when choosing a web browser is ad blocking, privacy and control. Support for web standards is still high on the list, but definitely not on the level of those three. Why? 99% of the websites use web standards that are completely supported by major web browsers. The 1% is those benchmark sites that use experimental web standards still in development. Google is usually developer of those so it makes sense that Chromium would be the first to implement them despite not being finished. Mozilla prefers to implement new web standards once they become finished and widespread as there's not really a reason to implement them before when they could focus workforce to more important things. Mozilla doesn't have as much as workforce as Google does so they have to focus on a few things at a time instead of 1.000.
After using Firefox for close than a year now, I still haven't found a website that doesn't work in it. And even if it loaded websites 20ms slower, I rather take that then reduced ad blocking functionality and sacrifice privacy.
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@Marko :) ’s analysis is spot on because it avoids the "best browser" trap and focuses on the real trade-offs: standards, privacy, and control.
I agree that Firefox offers a unique level of internal customization thanks to about:config, though it’s also worth recognizing that Vivaldi leads the way in UI/interface personalization. In that sense, each plays in its own field: Firefox as a deep-tinker lab and Vivaldi as a visual design workshop.
Ultimately, it’s about choosing our tool based on our priorities:
I agree that Firefox offers a unique level of internal customization thanks to about:config, though it’s also worth recognizing that Vivaldi leads the way in UI/interface personalization. In that sense, each plays in its own field: Firefox as a deep-tinker lab and Vivaldi as a visual design workshop.
Ultimately, it’s about choosing our tool based on our priorities:
- Firefox: The laboratory for those who want total control over the engine.
- Vivaldi: The workshop for those who live in their browser and need visual productivity.
- Brave: The 'out-of-the-box' balance for privacy and Chromium speed.
If we consider it "the best browser for user x", it would make more sense; what fits me does not necessarily fit everyone else.
I have my unique taste of browsers; I'm currently using a browser not used by most, or even may by no members at all, but I like it, regardless of how percentage of MT users are preferring browser y or z.
I will not eat sushi just because many people say its taste is good.
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