- May 26, 2014
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I can confirm that Norton configured Windows built-in disk optimizer to never run after I disabled the automatic task in Norton settings (because of it mistaking my SSD with a HDD), oh well.
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I can confirm that Norton configured Windows built-in disk optimizer to never run after I disabled the automatic task in Norton settings (because of it mistaking my SSD with a HDD), oh well.
devjit2020
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- Apr 7, 2022
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This is a long time bug in Norton. I think that it should be reported to the developers since they might have no idea regarding this bug. Other than this small annoyance the rest of the suite is top notch. I really love their download insight, smart firewall and SONAR.
- Feb 8, 2016
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Yes Norton disables the Windows utility. Personally, I would prefer to disable Norton's disk optimization and leave the Windows one active.
From what I've just read, Norton is just running Microsoft's own defrag app, rather than doing the defrag itself. It shouldn't really be a problem in my opinion, as Windows defrags SSD monthly anyway.
- May 26, 2014
- 1,339
Yes, it actually does that (call Microsoft defrag app), but for unknown reasons it doesnt make the TRIM command, it actually defrags the SSD, it is a bug and it clearly shouldnt happen.
When Norton is installed it changes how Windows defrag sees a SSD disk, it is treated like a normal HDD, I tested today and it was shocking to say the least.
Ps: Windows 11 x64
Windows does defrag SSDs, but only once a month.
The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD?
There has been a LOT of confusion around Windows, SSDs (hard drives), and ...
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- May 26, 2014
- 1,339
Windows does defrag SSDs, but only once a month.
The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD?
There has been a LOT of confusion around Windows, SSDs (hard drives), and ...
If you have Norton installed you can try yourself, when it is enabled Windows defrag will treat the SSD like if it was a HDD.
Without Norton ("0 dias desde a última reotimização" and that means 0 days since the last optimization; in another words, the last time TRIM command was called):
With Norton installed it will show fragmentation data for the SSD partition (like the "D" partition in the photo that is a normal HDD) and everytime the task runs it will do a defrag, not a TRIM command.
The best way to reproduce the bug is to make Norton "optimization" task run manually, so while it is working you can check the Windows Defrag for info, you will see it doing a full defrag.
devjit2020
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- Apr 7, 2022
- 91
One of the first things I do after installing windows is to disable system restore, page file and hibernation (also disables fast start-up). Thereafter I disable move to recycle bin and enable the option ask before deleting. Call me paranoid but I don't want unnecessary writes on my SSD
- Feb 17, 2018
- 870
But SSD is made to be used... If you dont want writes leave your computer off ( joking haha )
- Feb 17, 2018
- 870
SSD's are here in Malaysia cheap, Samsung EVO 512GB, around 50 euro.
256GB SSD around 25-30 euro. Who cares about the writes....
256GB SSD around 25-30 euro. Who cares about the writes....
My main SSD, a Samsung 840 EVO, has 75% health after 24.58TB of writes, so I'm not worried at all about limiting writes. That is only based on the estimate life according to Samsung, rather than an accurate indication of when the drive will fail. But it's still a useful guide and there have been tests of SSDs where they have lasted longer than the manufacturer's estimates.
- Dec 7, 2021
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I've never had a SSD wear out, but some simple steps to remove such things as indexing that were specifically designed for a spinner & I don't use Media Player anyway - Prefetch again to assist spinners, why not remove such things that do no good because Windows probably wont?
devjit2020
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- Apr 7, 2022
- 91
Practically modern SSD's have so much write cycles that they'll outlive me unless I'm using them in a server. But still I don't use features I don't need. I have 32GB RAM so no need of page file. I use MR to create system images so no need of System Restore for me. My PC boots in about 10 seconds without fast boot so no need of hibernation for me. I keep all my documents in my external HDD so no need of recycle bin for me for the System Drive. Anyways we're diverting from the main topic so let's stay with Norton guys otherwise he'll feel sad because we're forgetting about him. 
- Dec 7, 2021
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Because of this thread I've installed Norton basic, without VPN etc I don't need, forgotten how much I like it, for me it has the most configurable firewall outside the Klingon Empire.
- May 26, 2014
- 1,339
Norton firewall is pretty good, if I am not wrong it was based on the legendary Sygate Firewall.
Do you even know what AMSI is? AMSI parses scripts & macros and some UAC. AMSI is only for the following (and, if Norton properly implemented their integration with AMSI, then it works for code loaded into memory\"fileless").:Norton does have AMSI monitoring that prevents malware from being downloaded as an exploit.
However, the downloaded file must be detected. Otherwise, SONAR intervenes to stop the attack.
I test it a lot and I know how it defends itself
- User Account Control, or UAC (elevation of EXE, COM, MSI, or ActiveX installation)
- PowerShell (scripts, interactive use, and dynamic code evaluation)
- Windows Script Host (wscript.exe and cscript.exe)
- JavaScript and VBScript
- Office VBA macros
- Sep 2, 2021
- 2,586
I know very well what AMSI is, please don't take me for a fool....
- Feb 17, 2018
- 870
And this one is back again… was hoping he is back at the asylum
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