- May 26, 2014
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Sorry for your trouble
Planned: Real-world Test of Trend Micro, ZoneAlarm, Eset and Webroot
- Thread starter Trident
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- Apr 15, 2020
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Please look into it, because Checkpoint is an Israeli company. Tel Aviv is its centre.
- Apr 16, 2017
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lokamoka820
Level 21
- Mar 1, 2024
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Most Israeli companies that sell technology products have their headquarters in other countries or at least branches in other countries In order to deceive users who boycott it.
- Jun 5, 2014
- 267
there are some problems with this test which I'm going to say, i like the contribution and time that Trident puts into this subject and I respect everyone who always gives their opinion and makes us more knowledgeable but we as readers/users/semi-professional people should say when some things are wrong and do fact checks, research and experience things ourselves.
my honest opinion about what is wrong with this test again with respect to everyone who contributes to this community:
1. the link to samples should have been shared after the tests were done the problem with that is some people or even employees of some companies can report the links and have their product wining which is good for them in terms of marketing, showing a strong face, or fanboyism
2. the samples seem to be detected in the wild and as far as I tested are detected easily by some low-quality products, they are not challenging.
3. the phishing links are from a public database which even some low-quality products use to detect phishing, it seems maybe designing a phishing website and telling the trusted users of malwartips to use it with some products and test 1 or 2 hours later to see if the product detects the phishing is a more real-world approach this is just a suggestion because it seems you can bring up a website fast so why not use this ability to test phishing?
4. the downloading approach is a good way of testing but these days flash drives are still one of the primary entry points to a system a product with good download protection may lose in another real test which is coping or executing malware from an external drive. this is one of the reasons why AV-C has the malware detection test next to a real-world test.
i don't want to make this post a long one again thank you all for sharing and contributing.
my honest opinion about what is wrong with this test again with respect to everyone who contributes to this community:
1. the link to samples should have been shared after the tests were done the problem with that is some people or even employees of some companies can report the links and have their product wining which is good for them in terms of marketing, showing a strong face, or fanboyism
2. the samples seem to be detected in the wild and as far as I tested are detected easily by some low-quality products, they are not challenging.
3. the phishing links are from a public database which even some low-quality products use to detect phishing, it seems maybe designing a phishing website and telling the trusted users of malwartips to use it with some products and test 1 or 2 hours later to see if the product detects the phishing is a more real-world approach this is just a suggestion because it seems you can bring up a website fast so why not use this ability to test phishing?
4. the downloading approach is a good way of testing but these days flash drives are still one of the primary entry points to a system a product with good download protection may lose in another real test which is coping or executing malware from an external drive. this is one of the reasons why AV-C has the malware detection test next to a real-world test.
i don't want to make this post a long one again thank you all for sharing and contributing.
Faxx
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- Sep 7, 2017
- 16
Checkpoint is on the stock exchange so you find quite some information about its operations and ownership in the public domain, around 22% is owned by the original funder (from Israel) and the rest are mostly shareholders in US. For these type of large corporation, decisions are mainly linked to business and returns rather than origin... but of course any speculation is possible, as for any other company
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- Nov 9, 2022
- 576
I stopped using ZoneAlarm !
Well not because i don't like it anymore , for me it's the best one for Windows.
I stopped using because i stopped using Windows. My machine is now Ubuntu-tised !
Well not because i don't like it anymore , for me it's the best one for Windows.
I stopped using because i stopped using Windows. My machine is now Ubuntu-tised !
- Feb 7, 2023
- 2,351
Your ubuntu affair won't last for long :-D
- Mar 2, 2023
- 1,081
Yep, he's going to get bored with it and the lack of Windows (even with its grief and annoyances) and AV testing excitement
Side bets, anyone?
- Nov 9, 2022
- 576
For me with my website development it's the best. I'm really not switching back to Windows.
It would be interesting to see how Webroot performs these days.
I rememeber using Webroot about 10 years ago when it was just a simple icon on the taskbar with a minimalist UI. I think the current UI was introduced around this time, and hasn't changed since from what I can see.
I rememeber using Webroot about 10 years ago when it was just a simple icon on the taskbar with a minimalist UI. I think the current UI was introduced around this time, and hasn't changed since from what I can see.
- Mar 17, 2023
- 496
Yeap and Former President George Bush promised no New Taxes, Former President Trump promised a new Health Care plan, Tupac is living in the Bahamas.
lokamoka820
Level 21
- Mar 1, 2024
- 1,060
According to AV-Comparatives - List of Consumer AV Vendors (PC):Checkpoint is on the stock exchange so you find quite some information about its operations and ownership in the public domain, around 22% is owned by the original funder (from Israel) and the rest are mostly shareholders in US. For these type of large corporation, decisions are mainly linked to business and returns rather than origin... but of course any speculation is possible, as for any other company
- Apr 16, 2017
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I just received a ZoneAlarm email newsletter from Redwood City, California (fwiw) at the bottom ZA "headline" "Protecting over 100M users worldwide" (fwiw2).
- Jan 6, 2022
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Blessed Be
Anything but Windows. For any windows machines in my environment or close to... Zero Admin, Zero Execution, Web apps only, no local install of office or mail clients And all CIS level 2 benchmarked with some of my own touches. And KES in default deny with daily compromise assessments. We always get attacked but the cost to breach is too high$$$ Lol. No one ever gets in. And if they do... I'll find you even if they hide in firmware.
- May 3, 2015
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Any news on when the full test will be released?
- Mar 17, 2023
- 496
I think currently @Trident is busy fending off the Yakuza, Mosad and Webroot hitman.
- May 10, 2019
- 2,289
@Trident when r u going to conduct the test man? You reminded me of Iran's long-awaited retaliation lol
- Nov 9, 2022
- 576
@Trident is feeling sick, he be back later.
- Feb 7, 2023
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That’s not the problem, my laptop needs a motherboard apparently. I gotta buy a new one. I am happy to update all threat hunting, if anyone wants to fire up a VM.
Parallels for Mac doesn’t work, it doesn’t allow kernel-level drivers (seems like).
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