They are pretty serious aren't they, you could say almost anal to a certain extent. They also don't like politics, which is a problem because it is hard to discuss cyber security without that political element these days. Wilder's sort of remind me of Armish folk, stuck in a bygone era but the world has moved on and new platforms have taken over their turf aka Podcasts, YouTube, Twitter, Mastodon, Instagram.
Saying that I still like the forum and read it, it's bland but there are some gems there even with all the issues. I really have a soft spot for it and respect a lot of the ex/current members especially the old privacy/encryption posters because they were very intelligent and thoughtful. I wish some still posted but they are either sitting on a beach drinking mojito's



or in prison

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