I did notice and wrote about it too in my reply to @Oerlink but there have been too many posts here. Perhaps it went unnoticed. I am with you all the way sir!
Comodo might come back from the grave
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Thank you, Bumblebee Uncle, I missed that.
I was hoping to see the response to the evidence that was not only asked for but was needed, so that part of things could finally be put to rest; and the discussion could continue to move on based on facts.
I was surprised and disappointed by the silence so far, comments were made, but that part was ignored and / or not noticed by those who asked for it and / or required it and / or denied that.
I started to wonder if the screenshots were invisible or something.
Anyway, I just wanted to share that, so that I & others would know that I had not imagined seeing something like that at the end of last year; and that it still has not changed yet this year, perhaps Comodo will update their products pages eventually to acknowledge the current version of Windows for almost two years now.
Hopefully, Comodo can return from the grave / the coma and be better, we need more options, especially in the free & budget categories & cross-platform & cross product categories (especially from American(?) companies).
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Just because Comodo has not made an update or made a statement about Windows 11 does not mean it is ignoring anything.
There is no proof that the Comodo protections are not working on Windows 11. Comodo issuing an update, which will amount to a GUI update and some bug fixes will not improve its underlying security. It does not have to make any adjustments to its protections on Windows 11 unless it is proven that the protections do not work on Windows 11. Melih is not going to direct his staff to go on a fishing expedition to discover all the possible issues on Windows 11 just because it makes users "feel good."
What do people not understand about this?
The other thing is that Melih just does not care what people think and what they post on forums. He has stated as much on his own forum and given the reasons why.
Xcitium takeover? There is no Xcitium takeover. Comodo just changed the name (re-branded) of the product from Comodo to Xcitium. Xcitium IS Comodo.
The custom HIPS rules being created by the user getting deleted does not make the HIPS insecure. Neither does deleting the default HIPS rules which are there for convenience. It is an annoyance more than anything else, but it is understandable that users who want to use the HIPS would be troubled by it.
The bug about the disappearance of HIPS rules has been reported since version 5 and Comodo has said it will never fix it.
It has been a long standing problem that the forum does not keep a list of all the things that Comodo has stated it will not fix. So the same bugs get reported every version. The forum volunteers keep submitting them to Comodo, and Comodo keeps ignoring them because, it has already stated it will not fix the issue.
You have not supplied a single shred of evidence while at the same time making false statements.
Who said "Comodo has no bugs, Comodo does not need updates, Comodo is compatible with Windows 11, Comodo works for me then works for everybody"? Not one person has stated that anywhere on this forum.
Everybody would agree with you if someone here actually said any of those things, but no one has.
Plus you have willfully ignored the facts which have been given to you. For example, you claim that Comodo is censoring bug reports when I've told you twice that sections of the Comodo forum are archived when a new release will be made in the coming months. Comodo has followed this practice from the very beginning of the forum. You keep claiming that Comodo is quashing users on the forum and that is a false statement.
Where did I say that you all are wrong?
Comodo not updating their website to include Windows 11 does not mean a thing. Lots of vendors do not update their webpages in a timely manner. Is that the extent of evidence that is "Proof that Comodo is saying its product is not compatible with Windows 11"?
Why would Comodo ever say that? Comodo has always fixed reports of security problems that it can replicate and confirm as valid.
You are automatically assuming what is reported on the Comodo forum is valid. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of it is not. That is what the forum volunteers are there for. To sort out the huge mess of things reported on the forum that are not actually any kind of real problem. If what is reported is confirmed to be a serious security issue, then those reports go directly to Comodo. It is not the job of Comodo employees to sift through and confirm all the stuff reported on the forum. What they are responsible for is to review what the forum volunteers submit to them in a private channel\bugzilla. That private channel contains a fraction of what is on the public forum. Why is that? Because, again, most of what gets reported on the forum is not valid.
lol, not one person here said those things.
I do not know what people do not understand about Comodo. There have always been complaints about long time periods between updates. Melih stated the product is free, he subsidizes it, and he provides it at his pleasure as he sees fit. Don't like it? Then don't use the product.
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My final reply to you and after this, I am not posting here anymore. Look at what Comodo's own moderator have to say about this issue:
Do I trust their word over you or according to you they are just a low level employee! Perhaps you know so much about Comodo that it is your word against everyone else's. The software (despite the fact that it is good and works) has not received any software updates for two years or so and is known to be buggy ( I have also had personal issues with it running it alongside on Windows defender on a PC with very high specs).
I am sorry but despite all of this, if nothing satisfies you, then "I rest my case". You win the battle sir. I surrender
I agree if updates are available you should install them, usually after they've been out for a few days to avoid a "bad" update. IT happens! Meanwhile what I got from your last post was don't listen to subjective comments that a software is good, but if someone posts a message re a "bug" take it to heart, but aren't many bug reports subjective too?? Depends who is making the bog report and also who is reporting something is good...
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Fair point, so they just happen to miss the introduction of Windows11. That could have happened to any security vendor.
From now on I might be missing your posts, that does not mean I am ignoring you
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Epic reply!Fair point, so they just happen to miss the introduction of Windows11. That could have happened to any security vendor.
From now on I might be missing your post, that does not mean I am ignoring you
The bug would make HIPS protection insecure to average users who do not know how to handle the sudden bombardment of HIPS alerts when all HIPS rules are deleted/gone and who do not know what is happening or what - out of the blue - is going on on their system. Users might start to panic when seeing the flood of HIPS alerts and might make wrong decisions in answering them, allowing HIPS actions related to malware could be part of that.
Also when this bug happens the whole system might freeze at startup when users don't get to see the HIPS alerts. Or the system might freeze during normal use when HIPS wants to block certain app actions and users have to wait for 2 minutes before seeing a related HIPS alert.
The CIS default HIPS rules are not there for your convenience, those rules are the back bone of the whole HIPS feature especially the pro-active HIPS rules.
Because of this bug it is broadly being advertised to switch off HIPS, you don't really need it..
Comodo ignoring reported bugs and states that certain reported bugs will not be fixed? I must be living in another dimension!
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What position does that person hold at Comodo? It lists only forum "moderator." Perhaps they are only a community manager. That is a low-level position within a company. Even a junior developer is a low-level position, as opposed to a high-level one like a senior manager or executive.
That comment made by the Comodo "moderator" is with regards to a crash. It says nothing, not even implied, about Comodo providing diminished security on Windows 11.
Why don't one of you submit this question to Comodo support for a definitive answer instead of making arguments based on weak evidence:
"Is Comodo insecure on Windows 11? Are there compatibility issues with Windows 11 that make the product insecure?"
Comodo has always been criticized for long periods of time between updates and upgrades. That is just how Melih does it and he is not going to change.
Also, Comodo has always been very buggy. That has been a complaint about ALL Comodo software since the company was founded. This is what Melih said about it "Software has bugs. Some of them get fixed over time." More or less, if people do not like it, then they do not have to use the product.
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"It is freeware, so be happy that you get anything at all."Fair point, so they just happen to miss the introduction of Windows11. That could have happened to any security vendor.
From now on I might be missing your posts, that does not mean I am ignoring you
-- Melih
You do realize that Comodo does not, and never has, developed its security software based upon Windows releases? The Comodo CEO makes Comodo available as freeware when, where, and how he sees fit. Obviously creating a new version with the Windows 11 release was not important to him, and why should it be? It is freeware, and there is no proof that the protections are broken on Windows 11.\
I will spell it out for you... Melih deliberately did not make an update to Comodo when Windows 11 was released. He was busy with much more important things.
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It is not wrong. It is their freedom to make their own choices.
Nobody on this forum said "Use Comodo. Look see, here. My videos. They are proof that Comodo protection is perfect." It is you who is passive-aggressively stating that @cruelsister implies these things with her videos. Her statement "It works me" is not a sweeping statement that other users will not experience a problem. What she is saying, based upon her experience with the product over the years, is that a serious security malfunction is improbable.
You can ask her directly instead of beating around the bush.
Nobody ever said that the Comodo forum is subjective. However, the vast majority of what gets reported there either cannot be replicated or is incorrect.
Software vendors do not fix anything if they cannot replicate the issue reported. Repeated reports and intense discussions do not matter. Cannot replicate; will not fix.
This has been true for years and Comodo will not change in this regard because Melih has expressed his position on bugs in freeware products.
Do you think that CF\CIS have a dedicated development team? No. That is not the case. There is a single development team at Comodo that Melih directs to work on all his development projects. There is no CF\CIS team at Comodo just waiting for bug reports and then they get to fixing them. That is not how Comodo works. CF\CIS, as freewares, get updates when Melih gets around to making developers free to work on them.
Comodo will make a release and then the next one will be 2 years from now. This is how Comodo has always operated. Long periods of time between updates - UNLESS - someone PROVES there is a serious security breakage in the product. Even then Comodo is slow to release an update.
lol
McIntosh, or MacIntosh. I've seen it spelled both ways.Especially Cosmic Crisp!
“There is no proof that the Comodo protections are not working on Windows 11. Comodo issuing an update, which will amount to a GUI update and some bug fixes will not improve its underlying security.”
So bugs affecting GUI doesn’t diminishes the protection of the product. Yeah, that makes sense.
“Xcitium takeover? There is no Xcitium takeover. Comodo just changed the name (re-branded) of the product from Comodo to Xcitium. Xcitium IS Comodo.”
I forgot Xcitium was Comodo until I remember it was mentioned here yesterday
“The bug about the disappearance of HIPS rules has been reported since version 5 and Comodo has said it will never fix it.”
Quite unfortunate. Some people would likely love to configure the HIPS rules for their. Also from what I vaguely remember being mentioned in this forum only custom rules were affected.
Thanks. The things you said do make sense
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Sure, a bug could diminish the protection, but nobody is providing any proof that such a bug exists. Certain individuals just keep repeating "Bugs are reported on the forum," and yet that person has absolutely no idea what any of those bugs are.
It is wrong to assume that if there are bugs, then in some hidden, unknown way the protection is questionable. One has to provide proof, and not only that, the issue must be reproducible. If it cannot be reproduced, then it won't be fixed.
"There are bugs, so the product is unsafe" is about as incorrect statement that anyone can make.
I can understand those who advocate that users become fully informed about Comodo software. That is a sound bit of advice. But claiming the product is unsafe just because it has not received software updates in two years is incorrect and baseless.
Does everybody know that Windows Firewall has not received a single update in over 15 years? So, by the argument being here based upon the lack of updates, Windows Firewall must be leaving the network door wide open for everybody.
What about AppLocker, Group Policy, Software Restriction Policy, WDAC, Desired State Configuration, Trusted Platform Module, Just-in-Time Administration, etc - all of these get infrequent updates, some have not been updated in nearly 20 years. So they are automatically unsafe?
lol
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It is not only about HIPS that's being buggy in current CIS version. There are many other bugs on the list. Please visit the Comodo Forum and read the 'List of current bugs' to get an impression of all 42 bugs. And please note that these bugs have been verified / confirmed by Comodo Forum Mods and by Comodo Staff.
? what's the difference between reading comments here re CF which you frown upon, and reading comments at comodo forum which you encourage?"
(other than a comodo rep might answer your question -- agree that is not nothing, but also not everything) Just looked at comodo forum for CIS but seems not to have one specifically for CF, although I assume there are posts under CIS heading about CF. Under CIS News & Feedback there's 95,048 posts | Help CIS 12,176 | Bug Reports CIS 152. Small percentage of bug reports relative to total posts. I don't doubt that some bugs have gone unfixed. Do those bugs compromise security? I for one am not qualified to answer, unless I experience a breach, I have to rely on reports from others. Is it safe to assume that among the 100,000+ posts at CIS forum, most of those posters continue (continued) to use CF despite the 152 bug report posts? Probably. Sure, it would be nice if CF is updated, and I read that is expected. Will I use it? I might put it on a VM...
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This is where the CIS bugs are reported - and NONE of them are confirmed by Comodo. C.O.M.O.D.O. RT is just a community manager\moderator who performs basic triage. They are not a part of Comodo engineering\development. He\she is a go-between for Comodo engineering with the participants on the forum.
Comodo Forum
Comodo community forum to discuss and help people using security products
forums.comodo.com
There are 14 issues in the CIS\CF public bug tracker (there is also the internal\private Comodo bug tracker which the public does not get to see). The interaction between C.O.M.O.D.O. RT and the people on the forum is not a confirmation of anything. That person is just asking questions back-and-forth, providing steps like "uninstall\re-install" and passing information along to developers, if necessary. Nowhere do they state that anybody from Comodo engineering\development "confirms your submitted bug."
It is just amazing how people mis-state the facts.
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