Yes disabling HIPS has been one of her suggested tweaks going back years, and again also recently posted here in a recent video.
Comodo might come back from the grave
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comodo container is even now much better (as in out of their league) than most paid security solutions.
and is better without updates for a long period of time (years), even on unsupported OS
i dont care if someone encounters bugs, is irrelevant, it will work for 99% of the systems, as every software/game
and is free
so, yeah, it's better
ps: i dont use and i dont care about comodo, it is just common sense
and is better without updates for a long period of time (years), even on unsupported OS
i dont care if someone encounters bugs, is irrelevant, it will work for 99% of the systems, as every software/game
and is free
so, yeah, it's better
ps: i dont use and i dont care about comodo, it is just common sense
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You just like to go onto forums to bash Comodo without any proof. Then call the Comodo CEO a liar based upon, what again?... Trident's nonsense. OK. We all get it now.
What do I have to prove? I never said that Comodo was bulletproof. Comodo itself said it is bulletproof. Why would I have to prove what Comodo said?
I never made any claims. Everything I have said pertains to then AV lab test results and others' testing. The test methodologies are sound and well-executed. There's no reason whatsoever to doubt the test results, and they confirm that Comodo has excellent protections. If you disagree, then you need to take those matters up with Comodo or the AV lab directly. lol
I already did that. I linked the AVLab tests. AVLab tests are well-designed and credible. You are the only one who makes up complete nonsense in an attempt to discredit them.
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It is wonderful that you believe such nonsense. You have quite the imagination. Have you ever thought of a career with "Trident Story Hour" at your local libraries?
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Comodo has proven itself great protection all by itself.
You gotta respect Melih. He got containment right long before anyone else was thinking much about it. In all the years since it was introduced and no malc0der has bypassed it and pwn'd the system.
@Trident - your investigations are spot on! @Oerlink has been previously banned from this thread. He has had arguments with the wonderful @danb who I respect immensely - he stalked him based on that thread as a person called JT on wilders - works for Appguard (I think).
I am sure he will come around and debate all of this (he did not read things properly before). Pointless arguing with someone who knows in their head that they are right and live off emotionally laden discussions! But, love your investigative journalism here @Trident - kudos
I am sure he will come around and debate all of this (he did not read things properly before). Pointless arguing with someone who knows in their head that they are right and live off emotionally laden discussions! But, love your investigative journalism here @Trident - kudos
Not relevant for some but HIPS bugs are only a small part of all bugs, HIPS is not where all the bugs are.
I'm not familiar with neither the bugs nor custom configurations recommended by others. I only know if the software hasn't been updated in 2 years, then it should be a red flag.
There's someone out there running PCTools ThreatFire on their XP system right now.
sure agree a "red flag" meaning make a more considered, more researched judgment about running it knowing that it hasn't been updated for 2+ years. some with strong reputation here say it's still solid protection despite lack of recent updates. I am not running it but like to read reasoned feedback from users that are running it.
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Melih should tell developers to remove HIPS then change version number to 14.2023 and then leave it at that.
The HIPS should have never been there in the first place. Home users do not know what "Access to COM Object" or "Writing to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers" HIPS alert means. The home user just keeps clicking "Allow"... "Allow"..."Allow"..."Allow"
lol
Or deny, and then wonder why something isn't working. Been there, which is why when Comodo is on this machine, I disable HIPS.
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Why? Because everybody knows that home users do not understand HIPS alerts - or most any security notification for that matter?
Because home users cannot handle alerts is the very reason security software publishers disable HIPS and configure other features to NOT generate alerts by default. That is their "optimized default configuration" = no alerts.
Try harder.
So every home user is a non-expert in this area according to you. You, for someone not using Comodo, 'seem' to know everthing about Comodo and their users.
You like to put yourself on a pedestal, high above the rest.
Oh Holy Grail.
He is a bit of a know it all. Also pretends to have spoken to Comodo staff and what not! He has already lost all credibility among normal folks except the fanboys/girls who worship the product as much as he does.
Since my previous message might have got missed, I will paste it again here:
@Trident - your investigations are spot on! @Oerlink has been previously banned from this thread. He has had arguments with the wonderful @danb who I respect immensely - he stalked him based on that thread as a person called JT on wilders - works for Appguard (I think).
I am sure he will come around and debate all of this (he did not read things properly before). Pointless arguing with someone who knows in their head that they are right and live off emotionally laden discussions! But, love your investigative journalism here @Trident - kudos
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I never said that. How could you even interpret that is what I said? The vast majority of users cannot properly handle alerts. That is why companies like Kaspersky, ESET and Emsisoft "optimize" their products so that, by default, there are no alerts for the user to respond to. It is an industry-wide practice. It is the very reason that Comodo configures HIPS to be disabled by default! lol
Alerts and how users can or cannot respond to them is not specific to Comodo. Plus I never said I know everything about Comodo users. It is really weird that you could even make that interpretation from what I posted.
How home users generally do not respond well to alerts is a well-known thing within the industry. They just do "Allow"..."Allow"..."Allow"..."Allow"
Why? Because I am stating the facts? What is wrong with you?
Do you actually believe that I care what you or anyone else thinks?
Do you actually believe that what you or anyone else posts here matters or has any influence? It is really bizarre that any of you get so riled-up over my posts. They are all fact-based. It seems to me, actually it is quite obvious, that a group of you just want to bash Comodo without any real basis. It is fair to say that Comodo has a lot of bugs. It has that history. No one denies that. But it is unproven that it is unsafe, even after 2 years of no updates.
You and the others are just making conjecture. If any of you had made a demonstrable argument, then you would have no problem getting people to agree with you. But as it stands, you've convinced no one that Comodo is unsafe. Instead, y'all are buzzing about the forum way more concerned about directing ad hominems at me. You think you waging some moral, righteous crusade on this thread?
I like the one repeated numerous times... "We have to assume that Melih is a liar."
If I am lying, then where is your proof? Oh wait, you don't have any. Even if I am lying about talking to Haibo Zhang and others, the fact doesn't change - Comodo is not fixing those bugs. It has had 12+ years to do so and it has not.
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Of course.
Every day Monday-Friday Melih carries out a daily brief with JT/Andrzej/Oerlink regarding the future of Comodo.
We are merely exploring the possibility an outdated programme to be unsafe. Is that okay with you…?
Do we have your permission to do so?
Do we need proof to consider an outdated piece of software unsafe? Like do we need to design PoC and exploits to prove Windows Vista wasn’t safe?
We decide what’s safe and unsafe for us. You can’t dictate that or anything else. You might be respected at AppGuard but for us you are nobody.
Also, stop calling him Melih — he is Mr. Abdulhayoglu. He is not your friend from your childhood and when you refer to him you must have professional respect. Neither he is the same age like you, nor have you achieved half of what he has done for you to use his first name.
He has pioneered the freemium industry and you’ve merely written 10 “for loops” for an unsuccessful product, 5 of which were wrong.
Dude you have become a joke here - you may not care what people think, but you can see absolutely nobody likes any comments of yours across this community and nobody even replies to you, except for me. This is why you don’t let this thread end - you are showered with attention here. Attention you so crave and lack. Sometimes it’s better to shut up.
When I see you, I instantly realise why AppGuard is so unprofessionally designed - with people like you employed…
Even the website has errors.
And yes, I have considered story hour with Trident at the local library. My stories will get a lot more attention than your posts here though.
Every day Monday-Friday Melih carries out a daily brief with JT/Andrzej/Oerlink regarding the future of Comodo.
Btw I can’t establish if you are defending the product or bashing it - it seems like the latter to me. Do you just regularly go around on forums to bash competitive products is my first question here.f I am lying, then where is your proof? Oh wait, you don't have any. Even if I am lying about talking to Haibo Zhang and others, the fact doesn't change - Comodo is not fixing those bugs. It has had 12+ years to do so and it has not.
He just elegantly avoids talking about it…@Trident - your investigations are spot on! @Oerlink has been previously banned from this thread. He has had arguments with the wonderful @danb who I respect immensely - he stalked him based on that thread as a person called JT on wilders - works for Appguard (I think).
I am sure he will come around and debate all of this (he did not read things properly before). Pointless arguing with someone who knows in their head that they are right and live off emotionally laden discussions! But, love your investigative journalism here @Trident - kudos
Regardless what “users with strong reputation say” it is considered a standard practice within the whole IT industry out-of-date software to be avoided. It’s not just Comodo or Software A,B and C, it’s every package that hasn’t been updated. The same is even more true when we talk about security, as it’s an always-running app with kernel access - security holes are a recipe for disaster.
For the passionate keyboard warrior and AppGuard employee, I will once again stress — nobody has claimed anything here. You just need a discussion (lack of anything to do in your daily life as well as social skills) and you have “assumed” we are saying Comodo is unsafe.
We are merely exploring the possibility an outdated programme to be unsafe. Is that okay with you…?
Do we have your permission to do so?
Do we need proof to express a concern on a public forum? I didn’t know MalwareTips was the high court in Strassburg, but I am glad you have enlightened us.
Do we need proof to consider an outdated piece of software unsafe? Like do we need to design PoC and exploits to prove Windows Vista wasn’t safe?
We decide what’s safe and unsafe for us. You can’t dictate that or anything else. You might be respected at AppGuard but for us you are nobody.
Melih says a new version is coming and bugs will be fixed and you repeatedly claim that bugs are not getting fixed. It has become evident on many occasions that you have natural language processing issues (amongst many others like megalomania), but the way I see it, it is you who indirectly calls Melih a liar
Also, stop calling him Melih — he is Mr. Abdulhayoglu. He is not your friend from your childhood and when you refer to him you must have professional respect. Neither he is the same age like you, nor have you achieved half of what he has done for you to use his first name.
He has pioneered the freemium industry and you’ve merely written 10 “for loops” for an unsuccessful product, 5 of which were wrong.
Dude you have become a joke here - you may not care what people think, but you can see absolutely nobody likes any comments of yours across this community and nobody even replies to you, except for me. This is why you don’t let this thread end - you are showered with attention here. Attention you so crave and lack. Sometimes it’s better to shut up.
When I see you, I instantly realise why AppGuard is so unprofessionally designed - with people like you employed…
Even the website has errors.
And yes, I have considered story hour with Trident at the local library. My stories will get a lot more attention than your posts here though.
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You know your post history is public, right? You stated the product was unsafe "because of bugs and no updates in 2 years."
Melih said a new version is coming. He never said that the bugs people have been talking about here will be fixed. The development team decided long ago that they will not fix certain bugs. That is why those bugs have remained on the list at Comodo forum forever. It has been stated as much on the Comodo forum. You should go read it carefully.
No, it's not. Significant portions of Windows and the Linux kernel itself have not received updates in decades. Some parts of Windows are the same code from the 1990s.
Software publishers do not push updates "just because." Nobody has proven that Comodo is unsafe over the past 2 years, and so Comodo made no updates to the product. Besides, that development team was busy working on other much more high priority projects. A freeware product that derives no revenue is not a priority. That said, Comodo would fix a proven, replicable security defect. As there is none, they did not need to make any updates.
What do you propose Comodo update in its containment protection whenever nothing has been shown to bypass it and compromise a system?
That is exactly how Windows Vista was proven unsafe - through real exploits, PoCs and other real-world compromises. Proof was provided by researchers, pentesters and users for years.
Nobody has provided any proof that Comodo is unsafe during the past 2 years without updates and on Windows 11.
Oh, it might cause a BSOD on some specific Windows 11 systems, as reported on the Comodo forum, but that is just an annoyance. It is not a security concern. Lots of users are running Comodo on Windows 11 and it is protecting their systems superbly.
How embarrassing for you. Comodo containment runs in User Mode.
He prefers to be addressed by his first name, Melih.
Melih did not start the freemium industry. It existed long before he came along.
Melih gives away the software for free and Comodo has over 5,000,000 registered users. Thousands of downloads per day.
That is success by any industry measure.
I think Comodo staff should come here to MalwareTips and promote Comodo products and services. There's strong interest in CF\CIS here. Lots of MalwareTips would like that.
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You really like to talk and have your voice heard, but you should learn to read carefully what people are saying. Above is a quote from a post that is now suffocated under the multitude of posts you generated one way or another, or caused. I urge you to read carefully what I’ve said there.
I am extremely ashamed!
I haven’t commented on any single component, be it antivirus, Defense + or Firewall.
I hope you are not trying to claim that Comodo runs entirely in user mode and that virtualisation, even if running contained code in user mode (which would be the most sensible way to run it) can work entirely in user mode, with no kernel access/drivers whatsoever.
Or that abuse/weaponisation of antivirus drivers (such as Trend Micro’s outdated Ransomware Buster driver) is not really a thing.
It’s just something I made up.
But don’t trust me, let’s here what official guidance has to say.
Obsolete products
Reducing the risks from using out of date smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktop PCs, appliances or software applications
This is from the UK’s National Cyber Security Centre, but I mean if you say running outdated software is fine… we should.
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Not correct at all. Drivers do not need routine updates. You might as well call Kaspersky, Bitdefender and a bunch of other security software insecure because they have not updated their drivers in years.
The containment is not outdated. Nobody has demonstrated that it is unsafe. The technology itself is not obsolete nor does it need an update because Windows 11 was released.
The entirety of your post is not a fact-based analysis. The main element of everything you state is speculation and conjecture.
Now had you provided a demonstration that Comodo was unsafe, then you would have earned a lot of respect, but instead all you've done on this thread is spread FUD through nonsense and spurious arguments. For example, you claim a freeware product cannot protect better than a paid, but Comodo has been proven in lab tests for over a decade to protect better than most all of the paid security software available.
Nobody has to prove anything about Comodo to you. You are free to download it and test it fully for yourself. That way you know for sure that it does or does not do what it claims to do. Plus you can be assured that an AV test lab has not done biased testing. Since you talk like you know so much about assessing security and knowing all the security holes, then that task should be no problem for you.
You're not even a Windows user. You're a Mac user. So why does it even matter to you what Comodo does or does not do? Why do you care if there are Comodo fanboys & fangirls? What is wrong with that? Nobody is promoting Comodo products here in a way that is dangerous or misleading. In fact, any testing demonstrated here proves overwhelmingly that Comodo provides exceptional protection.
All Norton drivers for example on Windows have been updated on the 14/10/22.
Drivers responsible for AV scanning and emulation as well as disinfection have been updated yesterday last.
I am a Windows and Chrome OS user as well.
I don’t wanna go through the hassle of installing the other products you mentioned now and inspect them…
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