Battle dns0 vs NextDns

[SohanRay]

While NextDns is a great service, I feel dns0 is providing better security. Sure , NextDNS provides control to users but dns0(founded by founders of NextDNS) has better threat intelligence feeds(NextDNS plus others listed as partners). Am I right or wrong?
Reference links:

dns0.eu

Become a partner - Threat Intelligence Partners - Documentation

docs.dns0.eu

 

[Nightwalker]

I think you are wrong, it seems that dns0 is just a 100 % european hosted NextDNS.

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[SohanRay]

I think you are wrong, it seems that dns0 is just a 100 % european hosted NextDNS.

Edit:

So you are saying that you think Nextdns also has those partners or threat intelligence sources? Or did I misunderstand?
Also in the documentation for dns0 I saw they list infrastructure and threat intel providers as partners. So I don't know if they have listed Nextdns as the threat intel provider partner or infrastructure partner....

 

[Moonhorse]

Dns zero is more agressive than NextDNS, but what it lacks is whitelisting of domains & speed NextDNS dns has

Also on DNSbench dns0 was last , beaten by google, cloudflare, quad9, nextdns, controlD + others ( on my location obviously)

But im using Dns0 myself and so far it has zero false positives and its fast enough

 

[SohanRay]

Dns zero is more agressive than NextDNS, but what it lacks is whitelisting of domains & speed NextDNS dns has

Also on DNSbench dns0 was last , beaten by google, cloudflare, quad9, nextdns, controlD + others ( on my location obviously)

But im using Dns0 myself and so far it has zero false positives and its fast enough

What about the threat intel quality?

 

[Moonhorse]

What about the threat intel quality?

Sure it seems like Dns0 has more affliates so the threat intelligence would be better than NextDNS has

Its hard to say about NextDNS, probably only option to know about it is asking from customer support

 

[SohanRay]

Sure it seems like Dns0 has more affliates so the threat intelligence would be better than NextDNS has

Its hard to say about NextDNS, probably only option to know about it is asking from customer support

Nextdns only has a like community support, no direct customer support. I tried asking there already,no response from the Nextdns team.

 

[transformer69]

Try RethinkDns for DoH and DoT settings.
It's backed by Mozilla, has worldwide servers and many threat intelligence + all kinds of filters available in the configure page.

 

[Ink]

Nextdns only has a like community support, no direct customer support. I tried asking there already,no response from the Nextdns team.

Direct email support is limited to their Business and Education plans. See Pricing - NextDNS

 

[ForgottenSeer 97327]

When you google a bit, you can find that DNS0 has partnerships with launching partners and two joined later
1. the launching partners NextDNS (provided DNS service), BeforeAI (cyberthreat Intelligence), Abuse_CH (threat intelligence service), Annxia (hosting for mostly large companies), Ghandinet (hosting mostly for SME)
2. joined later Proofpoint (email security) Llionc (DPI security for UTM firewall with URLblocklist and AegisLab AV)

This is quite an interesting collection of services/companies. DNS0 seems to encourage companies to become a partner with the advantage that results will be shared with the partners. When you compare the advantages of DNS0 Zero, it seems to have the same protections as NextDNS with some risky top level domains. Also when using zero DNS0 over HTTPS I get the same Annexia DNS server to resolve domains to IP addresses. It would make sense that DNS0 service uses the free unregistered NextDNS service.

 

[TairikuOkami]

I believe they both use the same servers and partners, NextDNS just does not brag about it.
But in the end, it all comes down to this: some logging vs no logging (theoretically):

Privacy Policy - NextDNS

Privacy Policy

www.dns0.eu

I more interested in security than a "fake" privacy, otherwise I would switch to DNS0 in a heartbeat.

 

[SohanRay]

I believe they both use the same servers and partners, NextDNS just does not brag about it.
But in the end, it all comes down to this: some logging vs no logging (theoretically):

Privacy Policy - NextDNS

Privacy Policy

www.dns0.eu

I more interested in security than a "fake" privacy, otherwise I would switch to DNS0 in a heartbeat.

I am a little doubtful about if both use the same partners. As if you had noticed, dns0 had like 2-3 partners only at the beginning. Then later on others joined. So, NextDNS didn't probably have those partners who joined later on as it existed long before dns0 started. And in github, NextDNS had only mentioned once that they do use private feeds and may disclose some of them in the future.

 

[ForgottenSeer 97327]

To easily give an overview of the partners of Quad9 and DNS0.EU, I have drawn blue rectangle around the DNS0 partners of Quad9's partner page. Next DNS is not a partner of Quad9, but I have added it because NextDNS is a founding partner of DNS0.EU. These are the partners who provide threat intelligence feeds.

 

[Kongo]

So I am actually considering to cancel my subscription of NextDNS that I have been using for 2+ years or so. I really love it, but it just feels like it's not their priority anymore. So I'd rather save the money and try dns0. What do you guys think?

 

[n8chavez]

I think you should give controld a shot instead. NextDNS is showing no need for innovation or maturation. I think that would be the same with dns0, since NextDNS owns them.

 

[cartaphilus]

Dns0 will go the same way the nextdns is going. Same owners same BS. They will just create a new DNS service next year as a competitor and focus energy into that project. Rinse and repeat. Totally untrustworthy and not worth any future investment

 

[SohanRay]

NextDNS truly has become stagnant. They had like stopped giving a crap about what users say long ago. Even their beta features are still in beta since very long. Didn't even bother to make them stable yet. Dns0 may not be the same though, as it has partners who might leave if Dns0 becomes stagnant or not maintained. But Dns0 doesn't provide control, or ad blocking ( I mean with the one that doesn't block sites like reddit or twitter). If the zero.dns0.eu had ad blocking, it would be a good choice, if the ad blocking is effective enough to block most if not all ads and also don't have false positives. Maintaining such an ad block requires constant update and involvement, which isn't NextDNS/Dns0 team's strong suit.
So I would rather suggest ControlD. Its team is great. They have like a completely different take on how things should be done in respect of their duties towards their customers than NextDNS/Dns0. They are lively, always responding to customers, letting customers know what things they are working on..etc

 

[ForgottenSeer 97327]

What happened? NextDNS was the favorite of many MT-members. Why did the love for NextDNS fade away?

 

[cartaphilus]

What happened? NextDNS was the favorite of many MT-members. Why did the love for NextDNS fade away?

Love fades in a relationship where the other party just doesn't give a rats ass.

 

[ForgottenSeer 97327]

Well it offers a free service, with NO logging option (or logs in Switzerland), is Web3 compatible, added AI in 2021, which ran beta in 2022 and started to block stuf in 2023, is low latency, offers configurable malware and advertising protection, that is a whole lot of love when you ask me.