I don't think they will reply to consumers. They only reply to enterprise customers. Consumers are like beta testers. Remember that their every version is released before it is stable enough.
Kaspersky Total Security Boot Time Protection
- Thread starter cruelsister
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It is advised to take all reviews with a grain of salt. In extreme cases some reviews use dramatization for entertainment purposes.
- May 11, 2014
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I thought when you changed the application control both to untrusted then you were safe; it is very bad, as these are the maximum settings for Kaspersky, unless you enable trusted applications mode, and uncheck trusted digitally signed applications. Kaspersky will not change a thing, probably say it's a fake test and try to wiggle out of it.
Cruelsister, what about Comodo, does this have boot-time protection?
Cruelsister, what about Comodo, does this have boot-time protection?
- Dec 30, 2012
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It would seem that Kaspersky services are not loading fast enough on reboot to stop the autorun entry that encrypts your files??
- May 11, 2014
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Could well be, but the setting to change trust level of software started before Kaspersky services should ensure that's not the case. So, ESET, AVG and Bitdefender have boot-time protection, but the rest do not - why? Surly it's of most importance to do so.
- Jul 22, 2014
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I partially understand the need to find the "right" balance between detection, performance and nr. of false positives...but not protecting at boot (especially from "known" malwares) is a shame (for all AV)!
- Apr 13, 2013
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I was actually surprised that so many products were lacking in the area of Startup protection. For adequate system security it should be intuitively obvious to all vendors that this is essential. BitDefender, ESET, and AVG have it already; Qihoo added it within 7 days of my video on their product so the re-coding apparently wasn't that onerous of a task.
Preferential startup of an AV product should be considered mandatory- and it can be seen that all the important sounding terms like hardened, Paranoid, and untrusted really mean little if malware can do damage prior to these things being effective.
Regarding Comodo, it will prevent my malware from being effective.
Preferential startup of an AV product should be considered mandatory- and it can be seen that all the important sounding terms like hardened, Paranoid, and untrusted really mean little if malware can do damage prior to these things being effective.
Regarding Comodo, it will prevent my malware from being effective.
Its a shame...a product like Kaspersky...mostly on top in every test...failed on max settings.
I wonder if Kaspersky services were up fast on system startup...would Kaspersky have protected the system or not i.e is the failure due to late start of Kaspersky services or not i.e would it fail no matter what?
By the way how easy/hard is to get infected with such malware from external devices like USB?
Coz products like Kaspersky, Norton, etc... may have failed the test but it does seems they are quite strong on protecting the system online i.e anything entering the system through the web?
I wonder if Kaspersky services were up fast on system startup...would Kaspersky have protected the system or not i.e is the failure due to late start of Kaspersky services or not i.e would it fail no matter what?
By the way how easy/hard is to get infected with such malware from external devices like USB?
Coz products like Kaspersky, Norton, etc... may have failed the test but it does seems they are quite strong on protecting the system online i.e anything entering the system through the web?
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- May 11, 2014
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Thank you cruelsister - the malware you used, is that currently in the wild? Another excellent set of video's! The paid version of Bitdefender 2016 does this include boot-time protection? I have removed Kaspersky. Tony 
Heh, heh... Boot Time protection is vastly over-rated as a protection - as Fabian Wosar from Emsisoft points out.
Emsisoft Anti-Malware & Emsisoft Internet Security 11 has been released | Page 5 | Wilders Security Forums
PS - I think it is important for the typical user, but it does affect boot.
Emsisoft Anti-Malware & Emsisoft Internet Security 11 has been released | Page 5 | Wilders Security Forums
PS - I think it is important for the typical user, but it does affect boot.
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Thank you cruelsister - the malware you used, is that currently in the wild? Another excellent set of video's! The paid version of Bitdefender 2016 does this include boot-time protection? I have removed Kaspersky. Tony
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Why don't you adopt AppGuard - then you won't have to deal with such AV\security suite nonsense ?
- May 11, 2014
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I would never be able to config AppGuard, is it easy, or for experienced users? I really disagree with Fabian, cruelsister showed how boot-time protection is required to stop such attacks, if this malware becomes well known; then he would be very wrong to suggest that it's pointless.
AppGuard would take some initial learning, but once it is configured, it is essentially set-and-forget. It requires patience and ability to not get upset... LOL.
If you can handle messing about with Kaspersky, then you can handle AppGuard.
This is off-topic, so if you wish to continue, move it to PM. Thanks.
- May 1, 2015
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If the free version was passed so, the paid will also i guess.Thank you cruelsister - the malware you used, is that currently in the wild? Another excellent set of video's! The paid version of Bitdefender 2016 does this include boot-time protection? I have removed Kaspersky. Tony
Seeing how Kaspersky contacted cruelsister due to that video, they must likely intent to correct(or implement) boot time protection. So you probably didn't need to remove it though this depends in how long it takes them.Thank you cruelsister - the malware you used, is that currently in the wild? Another excellent set of video's! The paid version of Bitdefender 2016 does this include boot-time protection? I have removed Kaspersky. Tony
I have removed Norton Security & installed Kaspersky Endpoint Security Core ProtectionThank you cruelsister - the malware you used, is that currently in the wild? Another excellent set of video's! The paid version of Bitdefender 2016 does this include boot-time protection? I have removed Kaspersky. Tony
I have removed Norton Security & installed Kaspersky Endpoint Security Core Protection
Let us know how that goes... LOL.
- May 26, 2014
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I have removed Norton Security & installed Kaspersky Endpoint Security Core Protection
Do you have the resources to configure and actually pay for it?
- Jan 14, 2016
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Thanks a lot for this video.
I have set my kaspersky to max protection, i.e. possible, without degrading performance & i have applied all the necessary steps so that the boot protection is not needed in kaspersky.
Although kaspersky is good in all the other areas where other av's with boot-time protection is not so good, this video got me to apprehend that i need to UP the protection in kaspersky app control to protect against ransomwares.
And the golden rule: No AV is 100% secure, Always backup your data.
I have set my kaspersky to max protection, i.e. possible, without degrading performance & i have applied all the necessary steps so that the boot protection is not needed in kaspersky.
Although kaspersky is good in all the other areas where other av's with boot-time protection is not so good, this video got me to apprehend that i need to UP the protection in kaspersky app control to protect against ransomwares.
And the golden rule: No AV is 100% secure, Always backup your data.
I have installed only core protection minus all those business features on my Win 10 64 Home Edition.
Its running light.
I find it better than Kaspersky Home products i.e I dont like HTTPS scanning & its not there in KES, good & required settings & not lots of settings, custom install to not install not required features, no toolbars, etc...
I have installed only
Application Control - Application Privilege Control i.e all those Low/High/Untrusted
File & Web AV
Firewall & Network Blocker & System Watcher, thats it.
What do you mean by resources to config?
Have installed only core protection like Home products.
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- May 11, 2014
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So, Fabian basically says these tests are worthless and cruelsister would not respond to his requests, is he correct (I'm confused) I think I side with cruelsister and has done an excellent job showing why boot-time security is required. At present we do not know what malware is around the corner, what happens if it does become a major problem?
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