Microsoft Security Essentials is a useless AV

[Neiltullio]

I can't agree MSE is useless. In fact it helps cra**y vendors, as they can copy from MS plus classification provided by MS is often reliable.

It doesn't mean I recommend MSE. There are much better AVs on the market.

 

[Striker]

If u klick on anything on the net than every av is useless.

 

[Neiltullio]

Yes, with helpless user every AV is useless

 

[Ink]

MSE doesn't work... It can barely detect threats..

Brainwashed much? By the way, MSE requires a genuine copy of Windows to work.

 

[Koroke San]

"If idiots were able to pilot , you will be squad leader"

I wanna be a squad leader, better then being a school leader

 

[Oxygen]

Brainwashed much? By the way, MSE requires a genuine copy of Windows to work.

All of my computers are genuine, and i meant for "It doesn't work" i mean that it is a horrible product at detecting threats.

 

[Cats-4_Owners-2]

One thing I like about Windows 7's Microsoft Security Essentials is that it can scan files & downloads on demand by simply right clicking on the item. Either our Windows 8.1 with Windows Defender doesn't do this or maybe I just don't know how. A little help, please?

If I were to follow Squad Leader Koroke San, and if somehow we ended up crashing gloriously as two "Genuinely" blazing nova like fireballs, hopefully we'd be able to use something like Time Freeze http://www.toolwiz.com/products/toolwiz-time-freeze/

 

[Koroke San]

If I were to follow Squad Leader Koroke San, and if somehow we ended up crashing gloriously as two "Genuinely" blazing nova like fireballs, hopefully we'd be able to use something like Time Freeze http://www.toolwiz.com/products/toolwiz-time-freeze/

lol made me laugh xD

 

[nissimezra]

Many thanks for all your input, in common with 70+% pc users that I know of ,who are of course not malware savvy, son wants and enjoys computer for playing internet games , music downloads and sports streaming etc etc. As per suggestions I have installed Avast, MBam Pro ,Adblock, WebRep etc & got him using Sandboxie for web stuff and nowadays virtually no problems.
I still wouldnt recommend MSE to any friend or family, but unfortunately it comes preinstalled on vast majority of resale, reconditioned and new pc,s and leads average joes to believe it gives them protection . MSE always finishes bottom of independent expert reviews and AV tests and Microsoft itself have conceded its only "basic" and issued recommendation for people to use alternative Av's . Enough said. thanks

don't believe all these test sites, MSE is doing better or at least similar to free Av, and even paid. however if you want to (which isn't necessary) you might get better protection by using your money

 

[nissimezra]

By the way, MSE requires a genuine copy of Windows to work.

yep

One thing I like about Windows 7's Microsoft Security Essentials is that it can scan files & downloads on demand by simply right clicking on the item. Either our Windows 8.1 with Windows Defender doesn't do this or maybe I just don't know how. A little help, please?

If I were to follow Squad Leader Koroke San, and if somehow we ended up crashing gloriously as two "Genuinely" blazing nova like fireballs, hopefully we'd be able to use something like Time Freeze http://www.toolwiz.com/products/toolwiz-time-freeze/

here's how
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15790-scan-windows-defender-add-windows-8-a.html?filter[1]=Security System Tools


http://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...-desktop-context-menu-create-windows-8-a.html

 

[Ink]

wrong

Could you elaborate, please?

Last I checked it states at Step 5:
Click Validate to confirm that your copy of Windows is genuine.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows7/what-is-microsoft-security-essentials

System Requirements:
Operating System: Windows Vista (Service Pack 1, or Service Pack 2)*; Windows 7*
*Your PC must run genuine Windows to install Microsoft Security Essentials. Learn more about genuine Windows.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=5201

 

[nissimezra]

Could you elaborate, please?

Last I checked it states at Step 5:
Click Validate to confirm that your copy of Windows is genuine.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows7/what-is-microsoft-security-essentials

System Requirements:
Operating System: Windows Vista (Service Pack 1, or Service Pack 2)*; Windows 7*
*Your PC must run genuine Windows to install Microsoft Security Essentials. Learn more about genuine Windows.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=5201

It wasn't meant for you the WRONG, sorry for misunderstanding
as you can see ive got it fix

thx

 

[Cats-4_Owners-2]

yep

here's how
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15790-scan-windows-defender-add-windows-8-a.html?filter[1]=Security System Tools


http://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...-desktop-context-menu-create-windows-8-a.html

Paranoid (me), nissimezra. I'd reached nearly to the end, moving past UAC twice, but there is a 3rd warning which additionally states: "! Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this information...do not add it to the registry."

I just want to confirm eightforums is trustworthy, that you know it will work with Windows 8.1 update 1, and that it is compatible with no resulting Blue Screens of Death arising. Thanks in advance, nissimezra!

 

[nissimezra]

Paranoid (me), nissimezra. I'd reached nearly to the end, moving past UAC twice, but there is 3rd warning which states "! Adding information can unintentionally change or delete values and cause components to stop working correctly. If you do not trust the source of this information...do not add it to the registry."

I just want to confirm eightforums is trustworthy, that you know it will work with Windows 8.1 update 1, and that it is compatible with no resulting Blue Screens of Death arising. Thanks in advance, nissimezra!

ive test it on vm no prob

I know Shawn (Brink) for years and i learned a lot from him, he is one of the reason why i could work on IT without diploma. you can trust his files and tutorial.

 

[Cats-4_Owners-2]

ive test it on vm no prob

I know Shawn (Brink) for years and i learned a lot from him, he is one of the reason why i could work on IT without diploma. you can trust his files and tutorial.

Thank you (very much), nissimezra. Your word's a lot more enjoyable than a UAC alert, & with meaningful stories. You carry forward Mr. Brink's teachings very well too!

 

[Oxygen]

Could you elaborate, please?

Last I checked it states at Step 5:
Click Validate to confirm that your copy of Windows is genuine.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows7/what-is-microsoft-security-essentials

System Requirements:
Operating System: Windows Vista (Service Pack 1, or Service Pack 2)*; Windows 7*
*Your PC must run genuine Windows to install Microsoft Security Essentials. Learn more about genuine Windows.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=5201

Why exactly would you need to do this on windows 8.1?

when windows defender is already built in?

 

[zeusc4]

each & every av useless for idiots. with common sense you don't need an AV

 

[enaph]

My sons pc crashed he instals games visits dubious sites etc, I did safemode system restore .He had MSE with real time protection.Ran MSE scan - showed clean . Ran HitMan scan detected 69 infections including a few trojans , ran Mbam showed similar 65 infections & "security hijacks" and removed them . Ran Kaspersky TDSS killer detected rootkit ! ("medium risk" )& removed it .A few different scanners used with clean results.
Finally used Dr Web Cure-it in EPM mode and fakeav detected plus host item cured & deleted.
Rebooted & Hitman & Mbam rescanned clean. Ditched MSE & installed Avast ,boot sector scan found pup . MSE appears not just basic its dangerously useless . thanks

I need to disagree with your statement because I have seen MSE in action and he was pretty good in blocking some nasty stuff.
I smell typical PEBKAC in here

 

[Oxygen]

each & every av useless for idiots. with common sense you don't need an AV

Oh really?

If you share your computer/laptop with someone then i'm pretty sure there will be a virus on there.

 

[Neiltullio]

each & every av useless for idiots. with common sense you don't need an AV

If you are an idiot you don't need AV (or - you need AV based on whitelisting), in common sense - good AVs can warn users against PUPs/shady software and explois.