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Proton VPN Review 75% off with pcmag affiliate link. You can't go wrong, $2.50 a month.

Opinions on ProtonVpn? It runs nicely, plenty of options.In other words It's decent, many more different servers than Mullvad, IVPN, AirVpn.

Your going to be shadow banned or I.P blocked using any commercial Vpn service unless you use a a strange and unique location like Finland, Norway.
 

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Any general thoughts on Proton VPN? I use a VPN on a router, so the app is kinda irrelevant to me. I might be in the market for a new VPN soon, specially given black friday sales. Mullvad is blocked by reddit when I use servers in my city. Hide.me blocks youtube. Both require me to login. That's a no from me.
I've only really used Windscribe, Surfshark and Nord for more than a free trial in recent months but switched to Proton when a similar deal to the one posted before me came around. I'm only speaking for UK servers as I rarely if ever switch off them but I don't get Google captcha anymore which was a constant thing on Windscribe, Reddit works fine also without being forced to log in as does YouTube. My only gripe with Proton is not being able to favourite a specific server in the browser extension but other than that it's pretty flawless for me.
 
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So here's something I just realized. If you use Mullvad, ivpn, hide.me, or any other VPN that allows an internalized socks5 connection to the active VPN, you can always just add the VPNs proxy address to a site that blocks the default VPN IP. In that case, you'd be changing the IP used only for the site that blocks you, or thinks you're a bot. Things like that cannot be done with VPNs that do not use local proxies; proxies that only work to an active VPN.
 

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Have you considered AirVpn or Perfect Privacy? Both offer socks5. I can vouch for AirVpn, great service and plenty of options. PP I haven't tried in years.

AirVpn have 3 years for 60 euro's BF deal at the moment.
 
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AirVPN absolutely does NOT offer socks. In fact, the mods and I got into an argument over why AirVPN does not offer that. They ended up kicking me from the forums.

 
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My mistake, I thought they did offer socks5. They offer everything else. They offer OpenVpn which is probably what you want for your router
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I tried ProtoVPN. I liked it, but I had to get refunded because their DNS filtering caused a lot of problems. It was very very slow and since, they don't offer anything but ipv4 third party options and used closed-source lists, there was no way to trouble should or use an alternative. That's sad really, cause it was a good vpn with very fast speeds.
 

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I agree on Proton though, it's clunky and has issues. It's just not as polished as Mullvad, Windscribe, Express.

Have you tried Windscribe? I find their native Windows app very good and they have WireGuard and OpenVpn config generators last time I checked. I know you don't like AirVpn so I'll leave that advice out of the conversation.

I judge Vpn providers by their Vpn app. If you can't release or code a efficient well designed application across platforms then you probably can't run a proper Vpn service and you probably shouldn't use services that can't release a functional app visa versa.
 
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I agree on Proton though, it's clunky and has issues. It's just not as polished as Mullvad, Windscribe, Express.

I judge Vpn providers by their Vpn app. If you can't release or code a efficient well designed application across platforms then you probably can't run a proper Vpn service and you probably shouldn't use services that can't release a functional app visa versa.
I have not had problems with Proton vpn at least not in a long time, and use it, or mullvad or ivpn. Rarely an app will be released that has a bug, that gets fixed pretty quickly. Proton has been faster than some other too.
 

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I have not had problems with Proton vpn at least not in a long time, and use it, or mullvad or ivpn. Rarely an app will be released that has a bug, that gets fixed pretty quickly. Proton has been faster than some other too.
I've had problems with the Vpn app loading sometimes, it hangs for ages and takes too long to connect to selected server. Updating the Vpn app failed but then suddenly works.

I'm not saying they are a bad provider, in fact I rate them top 4 1 step behind AirVpn, Mullvad, and IVPN.
 

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Have you tried Windscribe? I find their native Windows app very good and they have WireGuard and OpenVpn config generators last time I checked. I know you don't like AirVpn so I'll leave that advice out of the conversation.

I judge Vpn providers by their Vpn app. If you can't release or code a efficient well designed application across platforms then you probably can't run a proper Vpn service and you probably shouldn't use services that can't release a functional app visa versa.

I won't use any vpn with jurisdiction issue, that includes Windscribe, ExpressVPN, PIA, Cyberghost, etc. I mean, that's just dumb. VPNs are for privacy and security. If I can't trust I VPN for either of those why bother?

I don't like AirVPN for the sole fact that they don't offer sock5 proxy through the VPN, but not do except hideme, ivpn and mullvad. I'm trying airvpn out atm, and I'm not hating it. One thing you could do to mitigate the lack of sock5 support with any VPN is to create a firewall allow rule for a "private" location only for the local address your VPN uses to connect internally (10.x.x.x). Then VPN connections are allowed and everything else gets blocked. Of course, that's in addition to the VPN app's WFP killswitch.
 

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I won't use any vpn with jurisdiction issue, that includes Windscribe, ExpressVPN, PIA, Cyberghost, etc. I mean, that's just dumb. VPNs are for privacy and security. If I can't trust I VPN for either of those why bother?
I see your point but jurisdiction is a non issue for me these days in most cases. If they can't get legal access they will just hack the service anyway so your pretty much reliant on the Vpn service keeping no logs and keeping as little as information about you and your account as possible. And that goes to my point of having a reliable well working efficient clean coded Vpn app, the better the code the less chance of exploits and attacks and less chance of you getting owned. If a Vpn provider can't release a well coded Vpn app with a functional UI how do you expect them to run a privacy service with hundreds if not thousands of servers? You can't....

It's also one thing to rebuff a DMCA take down request but how the Vpn provider deals with a valid court order is another matter. In this case Vpn services located in USA are probably a good thing, it's one thing to hack, attack or collect data on a foreign Vpn service without a warrant but the amount of paperwork needed to collect data on a USA service and get a valid court order and warrant would be I imagine be immense. I doubt they could collect all data from a Vpn service or be allowed to and the conditions would only allow them to collect information on the targeted user not dragnet surveillance or data collection which would be allowed of a foreign service.
 

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Perhaps. But wouldn't it be all the better is the VPN you used wasn't in the usa AND it didn't keep logs. I mean, if there's nothing to hack then that's best right. So, which ones have been proven in court to keep no logs? Mullvad and AirVPN, as far as I know.
 

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If you reside in a country that's not 5 eyes and has no extradition then yeah it's a plus but otherwise I'm not sure it is.

But the problem is your expecting a team of 5 to 10 members tops in a VPN company who's job is to run the servers, design and maintain a Vpn app, enable and implement encryption, and operate payment and billing info to go against teams of 100's of highly skilled 👌 and competent workers ✌️ in a government law enforcement or intelligence department?

It's never going to end well, that's why those crime phones and dark net markets always fail and get owned.

What a Vpn company in Western democracies buy you is process and law and order. The justice system is less corrupt and the process and evidence is needed to be followed to obtain wire taps and warrants. Plus look at all the major hacks, where do the attackers base their C2 servers and infrastructure? In the USA...
 


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