The Earth is Flat!?

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Janl1992l

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One thing i always questin is,why the NATO Flag has a flat earth card on it. there are more flags with flat earth. maybe its all a big cover up, we dosnt know until we fly to space ourself and see the curve. the new world order(elite) use shady tricks to fool us in anything. so we cant say for sure if its round.
 

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Thinking that Earth is a sphere is like thinking that Earth is spinning fast. Everyone who tried merry-go-round should have reasonable doubts.
 

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2000 years ago all people thought the earth was flat.
There was a fool in the ancient Greece (over 2000 years ago) who calculated how long should be the circumference of the Earth. He was very consequent in his foolishness, because he also tried to calculate the the Sun's diameter. :giggle:
 

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After this the earth is flat :p:)
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Pythagoras speak about earth 100 years before. But Eratosthenes proved with his work that the earth is spherical
We cannot be sure about Pythagoras:
"What then was the nature of Pythagoras’ cosmos? The doxographical tradition reports that Pythagoras discovered the sphericity of the earth, the five celestial zones and the identity of the evening and morning star (Diogenes Laertius VIII. 48, Aetius III.14.1, Diogenes Laertius IX. 23). In each case, however, Burkert has shown that these reports seem to be false and the result of the glorification of Pythagoras in the later tradition, since the earliest and most reliable evidence assigns these same discoveries to someone else (1972a, 303 ff.). Thus, Theophrastus, who is the primary basis of the doxographical tradition, says that it was Parmenides who discovered the sphericity of the earth (Diogenes Laertius VIII. 48). "
Pythagoras (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Yet, the Britannica says otherwise:
"Pythagoras (c. 570–c. 490 bce), for example, argued that the world could be understood on rational principles (“all things are numbers”); that it was made of four elements—earth, water, air, and fire; that Earth was a sphere; "
universe | Definition & Facts
 

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We cannot be sure about Pythagoras:
"What then was the nature of Pythagoras’ cosmos? The doxographical tradition reports that Pythagoras discovered the sphericity of the earth, the five celestial zones and the identity of the evening and morning star (Diogenes Laertius VIII. 48, Aetius III.14.1, Diogenes Laertius IX. 23). In each case, however, Burkert has shown that these reports seem to be false and the result of the glorification of Pythagoras in the later tradition, since the earliest and most reliable evidence assigns these same discoveries to someone else (1972a, 303 ff.). Thus, Theophrastus, who is the primary basis of the doxographical tradition, says that it was Parmenides who discovered the sphericity of the earth (Diogenes Laertius VIII. 48). "
Pythagoras (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Yet, the Britannica says otherwise:
"Pythagoras (c. 570–c. 490 bce), for example, argued that the world could be understood on rational principles (“all things are numbers”); that it was made of four elements—earth, water, air, and fire; that Earth was a sphere; "
universe | Definition & Facts
First, Thalis the Miletus and then Anximandros, Pythagoras and Parmenides argued that the Earth is round. About two centuries later, Aristotle also confirmed experimentally the philosophical positions of the earlier, as Archimedes later
 

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I found some respectful scientific sources that claim otherwise. So, let's agree that I can be suspicious about that. The sources do not prove that Pythagoras did not know that Earth is a sphere. They only say that there are not convincing ancient sources (except tradition) about that. So, you may be right, but you probably cannot convince the specialist about it.
 

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I found some respectful scientific sources that claim otherwise. So, let's agree that I can be suspicious about that. The sources do not prove that Pythagoras did not know that Earth is a sphere. They only say that there are not convincing ancient sources (except tradition) about that. So, you may be right, but you probably cannot convince the specialist about it.
If I knew good English I could analyze it with many scientific sources. But I do not know. The only thing that you should know that the ancient Greek philosophers always learned from their teachers were taught to the students. All the students from Pythagoras have references to the sphericity of the earth
 
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