Outpost

Level 5
Verified
I like a streamlined configuration, without too many overlapping extensions: a password manager, an adblock, and one for privacy.
The rest is needless.
 

Sampei Nihira

Level 6
Verified
So why then not just use uMatrix? It's also more powerful then NoScript and have a better UI
Why more powerful?
Noscript warns the user with a pop-up of the blocked threat.
Noscript also implements ABE:


Noscript has a longer temporal development than uMatrix which usually means greater reliability in preventing / blocking threats and also less hidden bugs.
By Gorhill's own admission, the development of UBO is predominant compared to that of uMatrix:


.....Hill wants to switch to using a maintained list of known offenders that uBlock Origin (UMatrix will support this as well) will process while leaving any other hostname untouched.......
I prefer to have it in my pc Noscript + UBO are a perfect symbiosis.
 
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SeriousHoax

Level 25
Verified
Malware Tester
If you don't like the GUI in medium mode (like me :D) then use uMatrix which is designed for blocking every elements which give you a lot better control instead of only control JavaScript.
NoScript doesn't only block javascripts, like uMatrix it can block media, frame, object, etc too.
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But it lacks the local rule functionality of uMatrix or even uBlock Origin, all the rules of NoScript are global rules which is a big letdown for me and also uMatrix has a much much better and easy to understand UI. I use uMatrix too.
 

SeriousHoax

Level 25
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Malware Tester
then why increase your attack surface and browser fingerprint? NoScript doesn't give you any improvement if you already use uMatrix.
Keep it simple
I don't use NoScript. I just pointed you out that it can do more than just blocking javascript.
 
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Sampei Nihira

Level 6
Verified
@security123

I prefer to use Noscript.;)
You prefer to use uMatrix.(y)
Everyone uses the extension they prefer.
Both provide us with protection from possible web threats.

Don't tell me that uMatrix is better.
It will be better for you (that you are not able to use Noscript to the best of its ability).
Don't deny it, I can understand it from your interventions.

I have been using Noscript for a long time.
I know how to use it well, G.Maone himself taught me.
At my age, changes are difficult to make, especially if it takes time to achieve the same performances.
And then there is also a bit of laziness.

With Noscript I have total control, as if it were an extension of my hand.
With eMatrix it would be like having an artificial hand.

I don't know if you can understand what I mean.🤔
 

Lenny_Fox

Level 10
@Sampei Nihira

You are using so much legacy stuff, that you create an image of a man who is to old to adopt to new technology. Come on you are never to old to learn something new. Let's do something different and try some recent stuff like uMatrix. Give uMatrix a try, you will love its granularity. I use it in a lazy manner (with the small W3Tech hostfile), have it blocking third-party by default and allow the websites I use to visit (I use Opera for for surfing).

When you imagine the protection as a matrix on which the websites are the rows and the content-types are the columns it becomes real easy to create rules by pointing and clicking on the uMatrix user interface. From a user interface design perspective it is brilliantly simple. Anyone who has ever worked with a spreadsheet will easily familiarize with uMatrix.

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N.B. CSS = stylesheet and XHR = XmlHttpRequest


The rules are listed in a different tab. It is easier to read the rules from right to left: (maybe Mr. Gorhill speaks arabic?) e.g.
* * * block = BLOCK all content OF all websites ON all websites (* = all)
* * image allow = ALLOW image(s) OF all websites ON all websites
com * 1st-party * allow = ALLOW all content OF 1st-party websites ON com websites (e.g. malwaretips.com)
nos.nl ster.nl * block = BLOCK all content OF ster.nl website ON NOS.nl website
* adservice.google.nl * block = BLOCK all content OF adservice.google.nl website ON all websites

My Rules
_________________________________________
* * * block
* * css allow
* * image allow
* * media allow
com 1st-party * allow
net 1st-party * allow
nl 1st-party * allow
org 1st-party * allow
_______________________________________
I have omitted the websites I allowed for ease of explanation. With uMatrix I can allow first-party only for some Top Level Domains (in this example COM, NET, NL and ORG). Combined with my Opera Site Setting to block all javascript except for HTTPS://* websites, first-party stuff is much more restricted than with the "Temporary Allow current domain" setting of NoScript.

As @SeriousHoax mentioned you will love the graularity of uMatrix, with one click I can enable all (except websites blocked by W3Tech host file)
_______________________________________
av-comparatives.org * * allow
av-test.org * * allow
azerty.nl * * allow
bbc.com * * allow
cnn.com * * allow
foxnews.com * * allow
hardware.info * * allow
infosecurity.nl * * allow
nos.nl * * allow
nu.nl * * allow
thewindowsclub.com * * allow
tweakers.net * * allow
_______________________________________


When my ultra small blocklists misses an ad or tracker it is simple point and click to block it for the current domain or for all
_______________________________________
nos.nl ster.nl * block
* adservice.google.nl * block
_______________________________________
 
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Sampei Nihira

Level 6
Verified
@Sampei Nihira

You are using so much legacy stuff, that you create an image of a man who is to old to adopt to new technology. Come on you are never to old to learn something new. Let's do something different and try some recent stuff like uMatrix. Give uMatrix a try, you will love its granularity. I use it in a lazy manner (with the small W3Tech hostfile), have it blocking third-party by default and allow the websites I use to visit (I use Opera for for surfing).

When you imagine the protection as a matrix on which the websites are the rows and the content-types are the columns it becomes real easy to create rules by pointing and clicking on the uMatrix user interface. From a user interface design perspective it is brilliantly simple. Anyone who has ever worked with a spreadsheet will easily familiarize with uMatrix.

View attachment 232422
N.B. CSS = stylesheet and XHR = XmlHttpRequest


The rules are listed in a different tab. It is easier to read the rules from right to left: (maybe Mr. Gorhill speaks arabic?) e.g.
* * * block = BLOCK all content OF all websites ON all websites (* = all)
* * image allow = ALLOW image(s) OF all websites ON all websites
com * 1st-party * allow = ALLOW all content OF 1st-party websites ON com websites (e.g. malwaretips.com)
nos.nl ster.nl * block = BLOCK all content OF ster.nl website ON NOS.nl website
* adservice.google.nl * block = BLOCK all content OF adservice.google.nl website ON all websites

My Rules
_________________________________________
* * * block
* * css allow
* * image allow
* * media allow
com 1st-party * allow
net 1st-party * allow
nl 1st-party * allow
org 1st-party * allow
_______________________________________
I have omitted the websites I allowed for ease of explanation. With uMatrix I can allow first-party only for some Top Level Domains (in this example COM, NET, NL and ORG). Combined with my Opera Site Setting to block all javascript except for HTTPS://* websites, first-party stuff is much more restricted than with the "Temporary Allow current domain" setting of NoScript.

As @SeriousHoax mentioned you will love the graularity of uMatrix, with one click I can enable all (except websites blocked by W3Tech host file)
_______________________________________
av-comparatives.org * * allow
av-test.org * * allow
azerty.nl * * allow
bbc.com * * allow
cnn.com * * allow
foxnews.com * * allow
hardware.info * * allow
infosecurity.nl * * allow
nos.nl * * allow
nu.nl * * allow
thewindowsclub.com * * allow
tweakers.net * * allow
_______________________________________


When my ultra small blocklists misses an ad or tracker it is simple point and click to block it for the current domain or for all
_______________________________________
nos.nl ster.nl * block
* adservice.google.nl * block
_______________________________________

Thank you very much.
I think there is nothing uMatrix has (but remember I should use eMatrix) that I couldn't do with Noscript + UBO.

However if you want to convince me let's do a functionality test.
To be on par with you I run it on W.10.

I'll insert a link:

The aim is to streaming Rambo last Blood (I am not registered).
You will tell me how many seconds / minutes it will take with uMatrix enabled.
Obviously don't cheat you don't have to disable the extension.
A desktop screen is required.

https://altadefinizione.photo/

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Terry Ganzi

Level 24
Verified
Look at the above image of how i have umatrix set up css and image is in green always, so when i go to a new page most of the time if something is blocked it's either scripts or cookies on an odd occasion frames. Once set like i have it stuff becomes easy champ.
Always remember this umatrix with global rules apply everywhere which can make it confusing, domain rules apply to the page your're on which is better by far, say you go to youtube allow some google stuff, then go to another page that has nothing to do with google but you see some google tabs in umatrix, with global settings some stuff from google will be allowed but with domain settings they will not be allow simple.
Just a small example plus umatrix sees things ublock origin don't see more control.
 
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Terry Ganzi

Level 24
Verified
For you to keep it real on this forum comes with a lot of backlash for example (off topic a lil) ablock, ablockplus, ghostery and adguard are simple stuff for simple blocking the only thing is adguard can do it system wide but then here is where it's weak blocking xhr (Fetch), frames,cookies, xss and malware you got to add things to supplement for those inherent weaknesses of adguard, now with umatrix it's not system wide but browser related 1 weakness if being critical, but on the bright side it blocks all the above and more it's just not for lazy people but for people who are willing to learn ( no insults intended just facts) now ublock origin was left last for a reason, here is why, ublock origin has in these symbols ++ -- on certain tabs that stands for many in 1 or 1 host name with similar host so by pressing green or noop on that host you're letting through a few some needed some unwanted stuff but with umatrix that's a no no.
Next ublock has a problem sometimes where u may noop a filter by mistake and it disappears never to see it again (once padlock is pressed) that is annoying and frustrates me, but with umatrix that never happens. When i hear people talk about netcraft, cookie auto delete, bitdefender traffic light, privacy badger, zenmate firewall, malwarebytes guard, emsisoft malware extension and many other add-ons i laugh because i was 1 of those people, just educate yourself and be humble, all things take time whether good or bad. By the way noscript is a great app on firefox, i just find umatrix more fulfilling.
 
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