Why I am avoiding preview updates and waiting a couple of days before downloading monthly ones

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Earlier this week, news emerged about a bizarre Task Manager bug where an attempt to close it results in the exact opposite. Even though the Task Manager window disappears, its process keeps running, and every subsequent try to open Task Manager creates an extra copy, leading to a pile-up of duplicated processes eating up your RAM and CPU. The most ironic part is that all of this happens in production, not some super-early preview build.

To all of this, Microsoft now has an answer: Yep, Task Manager is screwed.

The company acknowledged the bug by posting a message on the official Windows Health Dashboard website. There, the company explained that the bug happens on client Windows 11 versions 24H2 and 25H2 with the latest non-security update (the one that introduced the redesigned Start menu and new battery indicators).

Microsoft says it is working on fixing this problem, and it will share more details once they are available.

 
Honestly, nobody sane uses Task Manager, it shows nonsense and unrealistic RAM usage, it is a tool for plebs to show something.
Even MS uses Process Explorer at presentations. I prefer System Informer Canary, it can be customized to show everything.
 

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I know people who create system images say it's easy to roll back to a previous image if an update goes unbearably wrong. However, there are sites that advocate delaying system updates, at least giving Microsoft time to retract something that didn’t go well or roll out an emergency update to fix what was broken. This strategy may work well for some low-risk (for malware) populations who are cautious as well.

I, for one, am grateful for the many options available for Windows, unlike Android updates, which can't be rolled back and can break phone functionalities for weeks or even months.
 
Honestly, nobody sane uses Task Manager, it shows nonsense and unrealistic RAM usage, it is a tool for plebs to show something.
Even MS uses Process Explorer at presentations. I prefer System Informer Canary, it can be customized to show everything.
I use it; limiting 3rd party apps to the minimum.
 
Always a good idea at least for me to do a pre Windows Update image should things go wrong & save it, far better than any roll-back. - I haven't noticed any difference to my start menu though & have all latest updates. am I missing something duh ?
It is easier to wait a couple of days than to make regular C drive images.
 
Honestly, nobody sane uses Task Manager, it shows nonsense and unrealistic RAM usage, it is a tool for plebs to show something.
Even MS uses Process Explorer at presentations. I prefer System Informer Canary, it can be customized to show everything.
I'm using Task Manager.


I know people who create system images say it's easy to roll back to a previous image if an update goes unbearably wrong. However, there are sites that advocate delaying system updates, at least giving Microsoft time to retract something that didn’t go well or roll out an emergency update to fix what was broken. This strategy may work well for some low-risk (for malware) populations who are cautious as well.
I used to install preview updates and got burned once. I don't install them anymore and I never had any issues with Windows Updates ever since.
 
Honestly, nobody sane uses Task Manager, it shows nonsense and unrealistic RAM usage, it is a tool for plebs to show something.
Even MS uses Process Explorer at presentations. I prefer System Informer Canary, it can be customized to show everything.
I also use the Task Manager when I want to get an overview of the running programs. So I'm obviously part of the plebs too. I can live with that.
 
I also use the Task Manager when I want to get an overview of the running programs. So I'm obviously part of the plebs too. I can live with that.
I'm not control freak that will have process manager opened 24/7 on the side of the screen or on the second monitor. My use for Task Manager is simple—ending misbehaving processes, nothing else. If I really want to see details or something, I download and launch Process Explorer (maybe once, two times a year).

I also rarely use Task Manager now that we got the ability to end task straight from the taskbar.

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I'm not control freak that will have process manager opened 24/7 on the side of the screen or on the second monitor. My use for Task Manager is simple—ending misbehaving processes, nothing else. If I really want to see details or something, I download and launch Process Explorer (maybe once, two times a year).

I also rarely use Task Manager now that we got the ability to end task straight from the taskbar.

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I don't have the "End Task" option when I click a taskbar icon. Is a special setting required for this option?
Edit: I've found it now. For me, the option is called "Fenster schließen" "Close window".
 
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My use for Task Manager is simple—ending misbehaving processes, nothing else.
Same here, I never understood, why people keep monitoring tasks 24/7, till I did. Lagging!
Task Manager in 11 is just bad, it used to take 0% CPU, then 3-5%, now it takes up to 10%!
 
I don't have the "End Task" option when I click a taskbar icon. Is a special setting required for this option?
Edit: I've found it now. For me, the option is called "Fenster schließen" "Close window".
Nope, that's not it. This just closes the window, doesn't end the process.

Go to Settings -> System -> For developers -> turn on End Task option.

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Same here, I never understood, why people keep monitoring tasks 24/7, till I did. Lagging!
Task Manager in 11 is just bad, it used to take 0% CPU, then 3-5%, now it takes up to 10%!
I don't have any lagging or performance issues. 🤷‍♂️ I bet it's because I don't tinker much with Windows and 3rd party software. 😉
 
Same here, I never understood, why people keep monitoring tasks 24/7, till I did. Lagging!
Task Manager in 11 is just bad, it used to take 0% CPU, then 3-5%, now it takes up to 10%!
Not 24/7; I have core temp in taskbar monitoring RAM; when I find total RAM utilization is unusually high, I open task manager to find out which program/process is the culprit, then I close it.

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