Help Me Decide Best combo of FW, HIPS, SB & BB - Your views

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  1. HarborFront

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    #1 HarborFront, Jan 23, 2017
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    Hi

    I have CFW with EAM in one tablet which covers FW, HIPS, SB and BB

    Now, I have a 2nd tablet coming and I would like to try another combo. Below are some combos which need your views

    1) Avast Internet Security (FW + BB + SB) + adroxideHIPS (BB + HIPS)

    2) Xvirus Personal Firewall Free (FW) + Avast AV (BB) + reHIPS (HIPS + SB)

    3) DefenseWall Firewall/HIPS (FW + HIPS + SB) + Avast AV (BB)

    Notes :-

    a) adroxideHIPS and reHIPS have no stable release yet
    b) I believe the new Avast has BB which replaces its HIPS. Needs confirmation.
    c) How's DefenseWall's compatibility with Win 10 64-bit?

    Thanks
     
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  3. Lockdown

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    DefenseWall is no longer developed. It is 32-bit only.
     
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    I know but is it compatible with 64-bit Windows?

    Thanks
     
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    It is not compatible with 64-bit systems.
     
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    Xirus Personal Firewall Free (FW) + adroxideHIPS + reHIPS (HIPS + SB)

    Note i didn't try adroxideHIPS but if my friend @Wave it's making it there is for sure some value in using it.
     
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    #7 HarborFront, Jan 23, 2017
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    I don't use a sandbox to run applications not even in CFW otherwise I would have chosen SBIE

    I would rather it sandboxed a download file and alert me for my decision (like CFW) or it sandboxed a file and check against its cloud (like Avast)

    Note :- Avast SB don't perform that function. See post #10 below
     
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    Avast DeepScreen and Hardened Mode is available in Avast Free Antivirus, downgrade from Internet Security. What's SB mentioned for?
     
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    avast + rehips is a good combo. I have used it and liked it.
    can't comment on the firewall part because I am not into firewall business so much
     
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    OK, you are right. Avast's SB is for running of files in isolated environment.

    So CyberCapture is doing this task of sending suspicious files to its cloud for checking. Then Avast IS don't fit here.
     
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    But the reply here, post #6, seems that it works well with 64-bit Windows

    Best HIPS or Bevavioral blocker
     
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    If I use adroxideHIPS (HIPS +BB) and reHIPS (HIPS + SB) I'll need to disable one HIPS. Can HIPS in reHIPS be disabled? I have spoken with @Wave and he said his HIPS/BB can be disabled.
     
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    That's my post you are referring to. In another life and a galaxy far, far away, my handle here at MT was HJLBX. I can't remember that far back, but the "Works well on 64 bit systems, ..." isn't correct. Looks to me like I mis-edited the post.

    Anyhow... immediately before the above SNAFU I mention DefenseWall is 32-bit only. When I use the terminology 32-bit only, I mean that the program will only run on 32-bit systems. Because of Patch Guard, DefenseWall won't work on W8+ 64-bit systems. Windows isn't even going to let you install it.

    I am not even sure if DefenseWall can be purchased any longer. The last time I checked Ilya's website most of the page was non-functional.
     
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    I assume it's not the same kind of hips. Rehips only controls execution of parent-child but anw if you want to disable it use Permissive mode. It will isolate based on rules but anything not in the rules gets allowed.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification
     
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    in rehips, you could also delete the rules for system files, if you want to do that, and just leave the rules for isolating the apps .
     
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    #17 HarborFront, Jan 23, 2017
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    So my final combo would be

    Xvirus Personal Firewall Free (FW) + Avast AV (BB) + reHIPS (HIPS + SB) + adroxideHIPS (BB + HIPS) - 2 different HIPS here and the need to disable one BB

    Thanks everyone for the help
     
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    Just for the sake of curiosity, what kind of battery life do you get with such combos on a tablet ?

    What's the CPU ?
     
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    @HarborFront Your new setup is a bit of an overkill. Drop Avast or adroxideHIPS. Probably Avast because it will have a heavier load.
     
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    #20 HarborFront, Jan 23, 2017
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    I'm using MS SP3 Core i7 4650U and MS SP4 Core i7-6650U. Both 8GB RAM with 256GB SSD running Win 10 64-bit

    If I dim my screen to 0% brightness I probably could get 8 hrs. I carry the ac adapter with me.
     
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