Q&A What is your take on the Kaspersky Ban in US, UK and EU?

Kaspersky ban is based on .....

  • Innocent: the US hearings and EU report lacked hard evidence?

    Votes: 22 48.9%
  • uncertain: where there is smoke there is fire,

    Votes: 3 6.7%
  • it is fishy: three is a strike US, UK and EU can't all be wrong

    Votes: 11 24.4%
  • have not made my mind up in this matter

    Votes: 9 20.0%

  • Total voters
    45

shmu26

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#42
I am running Kaspersky Internet Security 2019 on my main machine, with KSN enabled. I am not a government employee or a politician, so I really could care less about all this nonsense. If you pick your software on political grounds, then you are your own worst enemy.
 

mlnevese

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#43
As I said in another thread if you let paranoia rule you, you've better disconnect from the Internet permanently and sell your phones as well. I have no State or Commercial Secrets on my computers and I doubt Kaspersky is selling my pictures in some black market. That kind of behavior would come public sooner or later.

As @Lockdown said what a Government decides to use on their systems is their decision and I understand why the US would be paranoid over Russian or Chinese software on their systems. I bet both Russian and Chinese governments are paranoid about Windows as well. The average user out there is not worth the time and cost of spying on them.
 

Lockdown

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#44
Does respect really exist? I honestly do not know. I can judge only by their behavior. There were vendors who on the main pages of their sites immediately began to write about the fact that the user should remove Kaspersky AV and and offer to install them AVs.
Or do you mean that marketing and respect of developers are different things and may not overla?. Then yes, maybe so.

Theoretically, you are right, the government always has leverage. But the companies are trying to protect themselves, keeping the money offshore and legally the office is also somewhere there. Therefore, we have some users wonder whether the Kaspersky is a russian company.
I liked your message, it looks like the truth. But so other opinions may be similar to the truth. Probably, the main thing is to take all sides and analyze the information, in order to come yourself to objectivity (or something similar).
In any case, the accusations need evidence.
Respect ? One thing I'm sure of that went away when cavemen first walked out of caves. Kaspersky direct-competitors taking advantage of an opportunity to make a buck in a cut-throat industry ? Opportunistic, cheap shots ? In poor taste ? :X3:

I just tested KIS 2019 three days ago. What the government thinks is necessary, the citizen might think otherwise. And my personal opinion regarding the software has never changed. For a person that wants a full internet security suite, Kaspersky is a really competent choice.

I think there is basis for concern from the perspective of "What could happen," but then things get stupid because a few people are angered, push back, and then things grow well beyond what the original issue was ever about. Disagreements turn into absurdly out-of-control stuff that no one anywhere wants to happen - like walls being built and missile crises. War by AV-proxy...
 

Moonhorse

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#46
Living few miles away from russia, and i have always been trusting russia more than us even the border guards of russia arent that friendly :unsure:

When it comes into technology, i really dont care aha:sneaky:
 

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#47
@Lockdown do you think the world will be the same? I understand that he will not be the same. But at least some calm that was about 10 years ago?
History moves in a spiral. But something seems to me that the world (peace) does not even smell.
 
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#48
It is a fact china stole info that we didn't give them as far as rocket tech. They are now forming a big friendship with Russia. My grandpa said 60 years ago, one day we would go to war with Russia and China. Don't be deceived. Neither Russia or China are The USA's friends. This new war will be cyber as well as nukes. I just read about a new tech that will make our stelth fighters more imune to cyber attacks , even though, I have no idea why the USA have their fighter and nukes tied to the internet.
If John Pilger is correct in his documentaries, then it was the U.S. that acted aggressively towards the former Soviet Union throughout the Cold War and towards China for more than a century. Given that, the U.S. should also not be trusted.

In which case, and as implied in the article, both the one banned and those banning cannot be trusted.
 
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Lockdown

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@Lockdown do you think the world will be the same? I understand that he will not be the same. But at least some calm that was about 10 years ago?
History moves in a spiral. But something seems to me that the world (peace) does not even smell.
I grew up in the Soviet Era. So, of course, compared to where we were once, things are better now. Not what they should be, but certainly better. The old ways are never forgotten and generations don't really change. 30, 40 years does make a difference, but mankind is flawed because it will repeat its own mistakes over-and-over - accomplish the same unsatisfactory results because it just can't help itself.

I think Eugene had a goal that involved selling to the U.S. government. And that got all messed-up. I think Eugene is a really proud individual - as he should be - and he is taking all of this personally - as I think anyone would. However, one thing I'm sure of is that Eugene Kaspersky will press on in the face of adversity. As long as Eugene and Kaspersky don't do anything stupid, both will eventually come out on-top.

I am much more interested in Kaspersky fixing bugs... I would think the average person prioritizes bug-fixes over politics. Then again, I could very well be wrong about that. Maybe they want their bug-fixes to be political. Such is human nonsense... :X3:
 
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#50
Kaspersky is a great AV. Probably the best AV.

It comes with a cost.

You'll get periodic searches for 10's of thousands of keywords that Russia is interested in.

And your machine will be a zombie... for possible use in a large conflict.

Since most people don't have classified on their machines... and since it's unlikely that your machine will be activated... the probability that you'll be impacted is low.

But are you willing to take the conditions of the 'deal?'
 

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