After 4 days with version 2004, I don't see much difference in my everyday computer life. Booting is faster by a few seconds, that's all. I checked on Google for Windows 2004 new features...One looks interesting: cloud reset or recovery. But I'm with Macrium.....
Windows 10 version 2004 rollout imminent
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- Jan 21, 2018
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- Jan 21, 2018
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Microsoft appears to have fixed the Recovery Partition hell in Windows 10
"Windows 10 users who perform a fresh install of the operating system won't run into issues related to the creation of Recovery Partitions on the operating system anymore starting Windows 10 version 2004 according to reports.
The Recovery Partition is an essential part of the Windows installation; it may be used to restore the operating system if issues are encountered.
One of the main issues associated with the Recovery Partition on Windows was that it was often placed at the very beginning of the disk. The layout would start with the Recovery Partition and then the main partition with Windows itself. The problem with that layout is that Windows cannot extend the Recovery Partition easily, e.g. when it lacks the space for the required data. Windows would then create another Recovery Partition on the disk; systems would end up with multiple Recovery Partitions and seemingly little options to detect or delete old ones..."
"Windows 10 users who perform a fresh install of the operating system won't run into issues related to the creation of Recovery Partitions on the operating system anymore starting Windows 10 version 2004 according to reports.
The Recovery Partition is an essential part of the Windows installation; it may be used to restore the operating system if issues are encountered.
One of the main issues associated with the Recovery Partition on Windows was that it was often placed at the very beginning of the disk. The layout would start with the Recovery Partition and then the main partition with Windows itself. The problem with that layout is that Windows cannot extend the Recovery Partition easily, e.g. when it lacks the space for the required data. Windows would then create another Recovery Partition on the disk; systems would end up with multiple Recovery Partitions and seemingly little options to detect or delete old ones..."
Microsoft appears to have fixed the Recovery Partition hell in Windows 10 - gHacks Tech News
Fresh installations of Windows 10 version 2004 and newer will always place the Recovery Partition after the operating system partition on the main disk.
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- Aug 17, 2014
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Immersive Search breaks Start Menu in Windows 10 2004
When you try to open Start Menu in Windows 10 2004, the Search box may appear over it making the accessing start menu difficult, here is how to fix if you’re facing this issue. Windows 10 versions prior to 2004 used to support a floating immersive search bar. The hidden feature can be enabled by […]
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Windows 10 2004 Install with Media Creation tool is failing for Some
If Windows 10 2004 aka May 2020 Update isn’t offered for your device, forcing the upgrade through Media Creation Tool may result in OS install failure and your PC will be rolled back to a state where you’re before installing Windows 10. Windows 10 May 2020 Update is available for Windows 1903...
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Honestly this only a problem for casual users as always, Microsoft even has a script available to create the partitions properly during Windows Setup (available for years now).Microsoft appears to have fixed the Recovery Partition hell in Windows 10
"Windows 10 users who perform a fresh install of the operating system won't run into issues related to the creation of Recovery Partitions on the operating system anymore starting Windows 10 version 2004 according to reports.
The Recovery Partition is an essential part of the Windows installation; it may be used to restore the operating system if issues are encountered.
One of the main issues associated with the Recovery Partition on Windows was that it was often placed at the very beginning of the disk. The layout would start with the Recovery Partition and then the main partition with Windows itself. The problem with that layout is that Windows cannot extend the Recovery Partition easily, e.g. when it lacks the space for the required data. Windows would then create another Recovery Partition on the disk; systems would end up with multiple Recovery Partitions and seemingly little options to detect or delete old ones..."
Microsoft appears to have fixed the Recovery Partition hell in Windows 10 - gHacks Tech News
Fresh installations of Windows 10 version 2004 and newer will always place the Recovery Partition after the operating system partition on the main disk.www.ghacks.net
Now this is some news to sink your teeth into. My issue exactly, plus: every time I had to re-install Windows, along with a new recovery partition, there would be a corruption in the Restart function of my machine, at times, severe enough to boot me directly into the window offering me the BIOS menu instead of the desktop. I've complained about it around here in the past but no one seemed to have something like this or chose not to comment.
Anyhow, I would delete the extra, un-needed partition, regain the Restart function perfectly, but then end up with unallocated space that I can't tack onto any other NTFS-formatted volume.
So, we'll see how this pans out. Edit: I've tried the script, I've tried a complete wipe and reformatting, I've tried. The Restart function is corrupted each and every time regardless. Something's whacked on this machine most likely. Thanks ALOT for posting this, Stopspying., it's a glimmer of hope to preserve my lone C: drive. Appreciate it.
- Apr 24, 2016
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Windows 10 version 2004 upgrade remains blocked for many devices:
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Windows 10 version 2004 upgrade remains blocked for many devices
Windows 10’s May 2020 Update, also known as version 2004, was released to consumers and businesses on May 27. Microsoft said that the May 2020 Update is available for users who wanted it through Windows Update or through the various other methods, such as Update Assistant and Media Creation...
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- Apr 1, 2019
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Disk Defrag still broken after today's update. After a restart it still shows that it's never been run.
yeah, i still have two computers that haven't been updated. one says there is no update yet, and the other tries and fails to update and gives an error. all my other computers are updated and running fine.Windows 10 version 2004 upgrade remains blocked for many devices:
Windows 10 version 2004 upgrade remains blocked for many devices
Windows 10’s May 2020 Update, also known as version 2004, was released to consumers and businesses on May 27. Microsoft said that the May 2020 Update is available for users who wanted it through Windows Update or through the various other methods, such as Update Assistant and Media Creation...
- Aug 17, 2014
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Windows 10 KB4565503 reportedly removing Notepad for Some
After installing the July Patch Tuesday update in Windows 10 2004, some users are reporting that Notepad is missing. Yesterday, Microsoft has released Cumulative Update KB455503 (19041.388) to Windows 10 2004 and is available for download via Windows Update. Microsoft claims the update comes...
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- Apr 1, 2019
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Yep Notepad is gone on my main machine.Windows 10 KB4565503 reportedly removing Notepad for Some
After installing the July Patch Tuesday update in Windows 10 2004, some users are reporting that Notepad is missing. Yesterday, Microsoft has released Cumulative Update KB455503 (19041.388) to Windows 10 2004 and is available for download via Windows Update. Microsoft claims the update comes...
I have Notepad but would gladly trade that for some record of Antimalware Platform having updated to latest version. It SEEMS to be installed as the version # is the latest, but there's no record of it anywhere on here, neither in Definitions Updates in Settings app nor Installed Updates in Control Panel
I can't find any evidence of Update debris to clean up, though I'm out almost 2 GB of disk space. Since PrivaZer uses the DiskCleanup, it couldn't regain it, naturally.
I can't find any evidence of Update debris to clean up, though I'm out almost 2 GB of disk space. Since PrivaZer uses the DiskCleanup, it couldn't regain it, naturally.
- Jan 21, 2018
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I was on MT early yesterday evening and then went to cook our dinner. I came back to find the computer restarting after Microsoft had forced the most recent 1909 updates on this computer. My post earlier in this thread show that I had it set so as to update 7 days after release, yesterday was the day the updates which were put on my computer were released. I know someone who had this happen to them last month and have read about similar instances of forced updates.
The updates, security and .NET ones, had failed. My computer would not boot and none of my back up solutions or rescue discs would work. The computer was stuck in a continuous loop of trying to implement 'automatic repairs' and failing to do so, then offering me various options to start in safe mode, boot from USB, USB drive, USB drives and even floppy etc. None of those options worked, file explorer was not working so I could not navigate to any internal or external locations. I could not navigate to an external hard drive with Macrium Reflect backups on. Putting a disc in the drive was pointless for the same reason. Reset would not work either.
I resolved the situation by installing a new Win 10 version on the C drive, then installing Macrium Reflect on the computer and running a restore operation to the way the computer had been set up earlier yesterday, pre-disaster from a Reflect backup made then. Everything works just as it did earlier yesterday. I took that route to restore things because I did not want to have to re-install all of the software that would be messed about by the C drive having a new Win 10 install, just having to make all of the about:config changes that I like and the extension settings would have meant it would take me ages to get it back to how I like Firefox. I work full time so that would have had to eat into time set aside for all the other things I need to do.
I install most of my software onto a seperate partition to the OS, its an old habit that I'm so glad that I continue as otherwise I'd still be re-installing much of the software if it had been on the C drive, or I'd not have had such an easy option as to re-install the OS.
Interestingly the OS updated to 2004 when I searched for updates, this is on a computer that when I tried over the weekend to see if it would update to 2004 I was told that the computer is not ready for thee 2004 release, so that must be due to some settings on my computer. As I've said before I am not going to alter whatever those settings are. Microsoft can do the work required from their side, it is my PC!
Moral of the story - backup, backup, backup and pray there is a way to implement the backup if Microsoft screws around with your system! Possibly also not leave my computer turned on and online when I am away from it for more than a few minutes, its in our home, there are no aliens here.
At some point I'll start dual booting on this system with an as yet undecided flavour of Linux.
I have no idea what someone without some IT knowledge would have done in my situation last night, coughed up a fair bit to their local computer repair shop I guess. I wish Microsoft would at least release updates that are more fit for purpose than the ones they seem to be releasing this year!
Edit - typos!
The updates, security and .NET ones, had failed. My computer would not boot and none of my back up solutions or rescue discs would work. The computer was stuck in a continuous loop of trying to implement 'automatic repairs' and failing to do so, then offering me various options to start in safe mode, boot from USB, USB drive, USB drives and even floppy etc. None of those options worked, file explorer was not working so I could not navigate to any internal or external locations. I could not navigate to an external hard drive with Macrium Reflect backups on. Putting a disc in the drive was pointless for the same reason. Reset would not work either.
I resolved the situation by installing a new Win 10 version on the C drive, then installing Macrium Reflect on the computer and running a restore operation to the way the computer had been set up earlier yesterday, pre-disaster from a Reflect backup made then. Everything works just as it did earlier yesterday. I took that route to restore things because I did not want to have to re-install all of the software that would be messed about by the C drive having a new Win 10 install, just having to make all of the about:config changes that I like and the extension settings would have meant it would take me ages to get it back to how I like Firefox. I work full time so that would have had to eat into time set aside for all the other things I need to do.
I install most of my software onto a seperate partition to the OS, its an old habit that I'm so glad that I continue as otherwise I'd still be re-installing much of the software if it had been on the C drive, or I'd not have had such an easy option as to re-install the OS.
Interestingly the OS updated to 2004 when I searched for updates, this is on a computer that when I tried over the weekend to see if it would update to 2004 I was told that the computer is not ready for thee 2004 release, so that must be due to some settings on my computer. As I've said before I am not going to alter whatever those settings are. Microsoft can do the work required from their side, it is my PC!
Moral of the story - backup, backup, backup and pray there is a way to implement the backup if Microsoft screws around with your system! Possibly also not leave my computer turned on and online when I am away from it for more than a few minutes, its in our home, there are no aliens here.
At some point I'll start dual booting on this system with an as yet undecided flavour of Linux.
I have no idea what someone without some IT knowledge would have done in my situation last night, coughed up a fair bit to their local computer repair shop I guess. I wish Microsoft would at least release updates that are more fit for purpose than the ones they seem to be releasing this year!
Edit - typos!
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- Apr 1, 2019
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My laptop on 2004 did not lose notepad with the update. ? 
- Jan 21, 2018
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Maybe Notepad++, or similar, might get some new users. To me it seems a strange move to take something out that has been part of Windows for so long and make it an option. Maybe Microsofts telemetry tells them that there aren't that many users of Notepad. Maybe as long term user of Windows, and Notepad, my old habits die hard.My laptop on 2004 did not lose notepad with the update. ?
Notepad is not deprecated, it was added to the Microsoft Store.
You can install legacy version through optional features, but I don't recomend it, the Windows Store version that is being maintained and updated.
You can install legacy version through optional features, but I don't recomend it, the Windows Store version that is being maintained and updated.
- Jan 26, 2020
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I did a clean installation on Win 1909 Pro 64bit, via bootable Flash Drive.
For several days, it was saying up to date, when doing Windows Update.
Now it says this:
Considering many bugs on 2004, I think Microsoft stopped delivering 2004 to PCs, is that right assumption?
Windows 10 version 2004 is here, and it has lots of issues - gHacks Tech News
Thanks.
For several days, it was saying up to date, when doing Windows Update.
Now it says this:
Considering many bugs on 2004, I think Microsoft stopped delivering 2004 to PCs, is that right assumption?
Windows 10 version 2004 is here, and it has lots of issues - gHacks Tech News
Thanks.
- Mar 29, 2018
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No. About a month ago I installed 2004 with MCT and then went back to 1909 with an image. I received several driver updates, etc. in the following days and then was offered 2004 via Windows Update. I still waited a number of weeks before recently updating. You should be fine if it's being offered now.
- Apr 24, 2016
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And 2004 keeps on giving....
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How to fix 'no internet' connection bug in Windows 10 2004
Windows 10 May 2020 Update has received fixes for major bugs in Microsoft’s monthly patches for July, but it looks like the update has yet another unpatched problem and it has been finally acknowledged by Microsoft. Microsoft has acknowledged that Windows 10 version 2004 is displaying false...
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- Aug 17, 2014
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Windows 10 2004: List of compatibility issues blocking updates
While the Windows 10 May 2020 Update started gradually rolling out to customers worldwide on May 27, not everyone can update their devices to Windows 10, version 2004.
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