- Sep 9, 2017
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not all the night I hopeIt is, yes. My memory was wrong. I’m on the phone all day
ZoneAlarm Extreme Security NextGen - Free License
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- Feb 7, 2023
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I got different plans for the night not involving phonesnot all the night I hope
- Sep 9, 2017
- 55
a plan B smart home and not smart phone ok!I got different plans for the night not involving phones
I always have the bug between the firewalls. I manually disabled windows defender .The Zone Alarm area firewall is enabled but it is still indicated by Windows that it is disabled? I'm going to have a bad night with this problem
- Feb 7, 2023
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For me it briefly says that and the warning goes away. They should be fixing it too. Another bug that I noticed is with scheduled scans.a plan B smart home and not smart phone ok!
- Apr 16, 2017
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same or some firewall issue too, (or just a display issue??
) my WSC says both windows firewall & ZA firewall are off...! windows thinks unsafe settings...
- Apr 16, 2017
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I checked again a few hours later, firewall(s) still show off in WSC, opened za and sent feedback about this and za not only wants your message, feedback button automatically starts uploading aggregate system info, perhaps typical, but then I got another popup "Log upload failed. Please try again at a later time." (or not)... but still liking za...
but still liking za...
- Feb 7, 2023
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It’s a known issue that already, I’ve been told it doesn’t affect security and will be fixed with the next build. We’ll see.I checked again a few hours later, firewall(s) still show off in WSC, opened za and sent feedback about this and za not only wants your message, feedback button automatically starts uploading aggregate system info, perhaps typical, but then I got another popup "Log upload failed. Please try again at a later time." (or not)...
piquiteco
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- Oct 16, 2022
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On my computer it wouldn't install, I waited almost 40 minutes and nothing was installed, it just said Installing ZoneAlarm..... may take a few minutes. It didn't even accept to cancel, I had to force shut down the machine is a shame. I had no luck with ZA the first time lol, I wanted to try it, but I guess this one is not for me.
- Sep 9, 2017
- 55
Hello. I also had this problem last Saturday during the installation. By chat my interlocutor told me that there was a server maintenance for 24 Hours.Indeed I could after 24h have the possibility to install ZAES Next Gen.On my computer it wouldn't install, I waited almost 40 minutes and nothing was installed, it just said Installing ZoneAlarm..... may take a few minutes. It didn't even accept to cancel, I had to force shut down the machine is a shame. I had no luck with ZA the first time lol, I wanted to try it, but I guess this one is not for me.
Engage a chat with them you will I think have advice or information about your difficulty in installing their product
- Apr 16, 2017
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I have ZA installed +24 hours and it seems good. I had no problem with installation, most likely temporary server issue, so try again. Also, are you installing ZA over MS-Defender, or are you running a 3d-party AV -- just wondering if that would have any impact on the installation...?On my computer it wouldn't install, I waited almost 40 minutes and nothing was installed, it just said Installing ZoneAlarm..... may take a few minutes. It didn't even accept to cancel, I had to force shut down the machine is a shame. I had no luck with ZA the first time lol, I wanted to try it, but I guess this one is not for me.
piquiteco
Level 14
- Oct 16, 2022
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Only MS-Defender integrated in Windows 10.I have ZA installed +24 hours and it seems good. I had no problem with installation, most likely temporary server issue, so try again. Also, are you installing ZA over MS-Defender, or are you running a 3d-party AV -- just wondering if that would have any impact on the installation...?
This morning I installed ZoneAlarm Extreme Security NextGen. This time it took a while, but it installed the ZA. My impressions, you will excuse me, but I will be sincere in my words, forgive me and no offense. What a bad product, really has no configuration so far so good, what I hated most about ZA was that it added extensions to my browser in MS EDGE and Chrome and became the managed browser and I lost the SAFE DNS feature that I could no longer change the dns in my browser, nor disable the ZA extension nor remove the extension. This is a 0 grade for me. The firewall has nothing to configure empty just the Network connection you have to trust the product. It doesn't allow you to block anything, it makes the decisions alone worse than the Windows firewall that you can block LOLBins or anything else you don't want to allow internet access. It is not the ZoneAlarm I know. In relation to the use of Ram is high just one process already consumed 500MB not added the other processes. But the crux of the matter is not the memory usage. I did a complete system scan, it takes so long Jesus Christ lol, it seems that as it scans the files it emulates them, I don't know how long it takes. I gave up on the scanning. I saw many people complaining about Bitdefender products comparing it to ZoneAlarm Extreme Security NextGen, Bitdefender is perfect, there is no comparison. Regarding protection I had no samples, so I tested some phishing sites some the ZA blocked others not. To be honest I didn't like the product very bad. I had already seen bad AV but this won 10x0.
- Feb 25, 2017
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I can kinda of relate to that. I mean I really like basic products, but there is legit zero customization and the product itself felt quite unstable. I already talked with @Trident about it and he took the time to explain why their threat removal and the detection popups are so delayed. It all made sense then. Still, I am really not a fan of the product. The reason why the extension can't be removed is that its deeply connected with the software itself as it doesn't only block malicious sites like other web-protection extensions. I kind of like their approach but other than that I wasn't satisfied with the product the last time I tested it. Will probably check it out when its out of beta.This morning I installed ZoneAlarm Extreme Security NextGen. This time it took a while, but it installed the ZA. My impressions, you will excuse me, but I will be sincere in my words, forgive me and no offense. What a bad product, really has no configuration so far so good, what I hated most about ZA was that it added extensions to my browser in MS EDGE and Chrome and became the managed browser and I lost the SAFE DNS feature that I could no longer change the dns in my browser, nor disable the ZA extension nor remove the extension. This is a 0 grade for me. The firewall has nothing to configure empty just the Network connection you have to trust the product. It doesn't allow you to block anything, it makes the decisions alone worse than the Windows firewall that you can block LOLBins or anything else you don't want to allow internet access. It is not the ZoneAlarm I know. In relation to the use of Ram is high just one process already consumed 500MB not added the other processes. But the crux of the matter is not the memory usage. I did a complete system scan, it takes so long Jesus Christ lol, it seems that as it scans the files it emulates them, I don't know how long it takes. I gave up on the scanning. I saw many people complaining about Bitdefender products comparing it to ZoneAlarm Extreme Security NextGen, Bitdefender is perfect, there is no comparison. Regarding protection I had no samples, so I tested some phishing sites some the ZA blocked others not. To be honest I didn't like the product very bad. I had already seen bad AV but this won 10x0.
- Feb 7, 2023
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The extension can be removed from the product itself, when you click on “Web Secure” in the main UI and then on top there is the option to turn Web Secure off. This will decrease protection a lot and is not recommended at all. ZoneAlarm is very different from the vast majority of home AVs (being a copy of business solution) and is hence not to everyone’s liking. For detailed configuration (loads of it), Harmony Endpoint is recommended.
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piquiteco
Level 14
- Oct 16, 2022
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Really, I noticed that some processes in Process Explorer with name Harmony seems to me that was the process of the threat emulator and other processes with name check point, it's a shame I thought I would like the product. I thought it was similar to BD, but I was wrong.
- Feb 7, 2023
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I’m not the biggest fan of Bitdefender myself though.
It is a solution created and optimised for home users, no doubt there.
It is created with their needs in mind rather than being a rebrand of business software.
But I am not a fan of their 500MB definitions which get updates every hour.
For me a solution that needs to be updated every 40 minutes is not an extremely effective one.
On true 0-days, ZoneAlarm and Check Point would block them through emulation whilst Bitdefender is gonna be caught short. And same goes for all BD-Based AVs.
piquiteco
Level 14
- Oct 16, 2022
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Yes, I totally agree when it comes to let's see, ZA can outperform the big AV in threat detection . Sometimes I get a split heart when it comes to using a major AV, I don't know if it was after I started participating in the MT forum. If you ask me which AV I would definitely use I wouldn't know how to answer you. More funny, you will laugh now, I am using MS Defender. I have F-secure license until 2026, Emsisoft almost 1 year license, Bitdefender almost 1 year license and not using any 3rd party AV and in the end I end up using Defender lol.
- Feb 7, 2023
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It does actually, the static analysis is Static Analysis in sandbox. Some files get emulated during scan, mainly packers and others that can fool traditional SA. For me, full scan takes about 10 minutes… but my system is very vanilla. Critical Areas scan takes just over a minute but not sure how it will be if I got loads of software installed.
ZoneAlarm is actually very gentle and false-positive-reduction optimised AV compared to Check Point Harmony. On real world test where users will be attacked mainly through documents, executables and scripts in emails and fake software, they both will excel. Specially in the documents area that has proven through the Emotet and various other attacks to be problematic.
I have probably all the AVs, some like McAfee and Trend Micro till 2030/2031. But only Norton and ZoneAlarm are to my likingI have F-secure license until 2026, Emsisoft almost 1 year license, Bitdefender almost 1 year license and not using any 3rd party AV and in the end I end up using Defender lol.
They both have hints of Enterprise software to them, maybe that’s why. I’ve installed ZA on my parents and girlfriend laptops now, replacing Norton.
piquiteco
Level 14
- Oct 16, 2022
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Trend Micro I already like, where I managed to buy licenses for almost 10 years ... former employee ... won trial license? I bought once in 2016 a BD license for 4 years ended in August 2020. I did not regret it, besides being cheap the license I never looked back, if I found it I would buy it again. The McAfee I am not a fan I have used more I found it too bloated. Only thing I liked in McAfee was that it shows the devices connected to the network, the IP assigned, MAC, device name that I loved, it seems to me that ESET and AVAST also had feature @simmerskool can confirm this in relation to ESET.I have probably all the AVs, some like McAfee and Trend Micro till 2030/2031. But only Norton and ZoneAlarm are to my liking
- Feb 7, 2023
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Can’t say they are bad, definitely not the worst but I can’t say loads of good things about them either.
Yes, they both have this feature. McAfee is in the process of removing it (and plenty of other bloatware). Norton had it years ago and removed it too. Trend Micro has the home network scanner which can do the same. Avast and Eset have that capability with Avast being able to display real time notification as well upon device connection. I’m not a fan of this feature to be honest. ZoneAlarm is very much clean of bloatware.
piquiteco
Level 14
- Oct 16, 2022
- 626
Yes, this is called privacy, many people will not like this probably, is that at the time as I had never seen an AV with this feature, I thought it was cool, more I would not mind buying an AV just because of this. But it's worth it for testing the ZA. I just hope that users don't take my feedback as a bad product, it doesn't mean that ZA will be bad for you too, go by @Trident many know that you can't argue about taste, suddenly you may like it, the important thing in the end is the efficiency of the AV in the real world to detect and eliminate threats.
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