The Russian Company That Is a Danger to Our Security

Discussion in 'Kaspersky' started by venustus, Sep 5, 2017.

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Do you trust Kaspersky Lab?

Poll closed Oct 8, 2017.
  1. Yes

    78 vote(s)
    78.8%
  2. No

    21 vote(s)
    21.2%
  1. zzz00m

    zzz00m Level 3

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    I use a German AV. I think they are possibly the most trustworthy. :D
     
  2. Arequire

    Arequire Level 18

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    Just think of all those systems with Kaspersky installed on them just waiting to be turned into a big ol' botnet by the Russian state. :sneaky:
     
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  3. venustus

    venustus Level 43
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  4. klaken

    klaken Level 2

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    XD most of the world hates the lies of USA (especially the CIA and FBI) but everyone fears him and that's why they obey ..

    Peronally I trust trump more than the previous president at least is more honest ... I connote to many who say the same, trump is unpolitical but at least he is honest with what happens.

    I am chilean.
     
  5. blueblackwow65

    blueblackwow65 Level 11

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    So is this software safe to use? It is one of the best out there.
     
  6. Tony Cole

    Tony Cole Level 27

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    Absolute crap, I'm sorry this is all political, with the UK, USA and EU responsible, trying to alienate Russia to achieve it's 'own' goals. I'd imagine Kaspersky is the most trustworthy.
     
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  7. Sher

    Sher Level 10

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    Even, if they do spy on you, I don't give a damn. I am not doing anything wrong on the net.
     
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  8. Slyguy

    Slyguy Level 21

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    The nothing to hide argument is paradoxical at best because it assuages itself under the notion that an individual doesn't value individualism.

    Nothing to hide argument - Wikipedia

    Emilio Mordini, philosopher and psychoanalyst, argued that the "nothing to hide" argument is inherently paradoxical. People do not need to have "something to hide" in order to hide "something". What is relevant is not what is hidden, rather the experience that there is an intimate area, which could be hidden, whose access could be restricted. Psychologically speaking, we become individuals through the discovery that we could hide something to others.
     
  9. low L!fe

    low L!fe Level 3

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    I moved to BitDefender
     
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  10. Prorootect

    Prorootect Level 46

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    Ha mmm I moved to control all bad guys
    by Policy Control and Redirect Control...
     
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  11. TrinitronMSDOS

    TrinitronMSDOS Level 2

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    Most softwares i use are from the US or Europe, but i have no problem using Russian or even Chinese companies. What matters is if the company is trustworthy.

    As for this Russian spying and fake-news nonsense, i honestly feel it's complete BS. I'm using AdGuard, Kerish Doctor and Movavi Video Suite that are Russian companies and i'm not worried.

    There are some exceptions though, for password managers or cloud storage for example, the country where it's based matters. But even then i highly doubt Putin would watch my family pictures on his spare time if he could :ROFLMAO:

    Honestly i think it's time to accept that most major countries are spying on each others and their citizens, and the only one that should feel concerned about this are governments and companies with sensitive data.
     
  12. crezz

    crezz Level 3

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    A cynic might say that Kaspersky is rather too good at blocking CIA spying tools and this is why the USA don't like it.

    In practice, I feel that any government is capable of spying on me whatever security measures I take. Its the criminals I am more concerned about.
     
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  13. CMLew

    CMLew Level 22

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    I supposed Adguard is belong to Russian Company?
    Who's still using it (apart from me, a loyal supporter)? lol
     
  14. dinosaur07

    dinosaur07 Level 3

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    Really, i`ve had enough of this pure propaganda, Kaspersky produces very good software, innovative and performant and we are not so important to be spied on. Come on, guys, let`s ignore this false battle.
     
  15. Tony Cole

    Tony Cole Level 27

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    I'm going to be blunt - absolute crap. Russia did not hack the Brexit vote nor the USA Presidential elections. The reasons they waffle on and on is because Hillary Clinton cannot accept she lost to Donald Trump. If Hillary had won this would have never been mentioned.

    I fully trust Kaspersky and have used their products for many years.
     
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  16. NormanF

    NormanF Level 1

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    The argument is based on anti-Russian prejudice.

    Its not based on any proof of wrong-doing by Kaspersky.

    I'd all be for a ban on their products if the company was caught breaking the law.

    That's not the case here and people who hate Russians - well they will hate regardless of the facts.

    I'm not saying Kaspersky isn't involved in something we don't know about.

    Its just that in the current circumstances, the case against the company hssn't even met the due process threshold.
     
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  17. Slyguy

    Slyguy Level 21

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    Should rename this thread "The United States Company That Is a Danger to Our Security"

    Then post a huge picture of INTEL.
     
  18. Opcode

    Opcode Level 18
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    If Kaspersky got banned then Intel should be too. It would probably be a very good decision for the future.
     
  19. boredog

    boredog Level 8

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  20. Opcode

    Opcode Level 18
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    #100 Opcode, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:06 AM
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018 at 11:15 AM
    AMD have some flaws, not all of them work for AMD. Some of them may work with ARM and other chip manufacturers but in the end, more/all of them work for Intel - not to mention Intel have other vulnerabilities out in the open right now which is unrelated to Meltdown and Spectre.

    New one here already:
    New Intel AMT Security Vulnerability Discovered, Millions of Laptops Affected

    By default, the standard Meltdown attack isn't compatible with AMD at-least. One of the Spectre variants to-date is compatible with AMD systems however not all of them, and at the same time, all of them do work with Intel as far as I am aware. I don't know how ARM is getting on that much.

    The Meltdown patch is also responsible for the performance fiasco we've all been spectating.
     
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