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Xtwillight

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Some of these lesser known scanners, such as this one, do quite well at detecting PUPs, but do terribly at detecting malware.
Sorry roger_m,

you wrote the same thing when I asked Shadowra.


But that's not the point, software solutions can and should evolve. They should be tested regularly.

I am less and less interested in software from giants like Gen Digital Inc. who have swallowed up Norton-Avast-AVG-Avira.


I find ESET-Malwarebytes and other smaller companies more interesting. Gen Digital and others only buy up technological innovations and developments, and in some cases no longer develop them themselves.

It is interesting to see how many unique tools within security software have disappeared from the portfolios of the big buyers in recent decades or have no longer been further developed by companies.


That's why it's better to test small manufacturers from time to time to observe their development
 
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Sorry roger_m,

you wrote the same thing when I asked Shadowra.


But that's not the point, software solutions can and should evolve. They should be tested regularly.
Software like this doesn't ever evolve, except for very occasional exceptions. They just continue being very mediocre. I say this from experience, as I've spent many hours looking for and testing lesser known antiviruses and antimalware apps. An interesting thing about forums like this, is that apps that perform well, generally get a lot of attention, while apps that don't, rarely get a mention. That's why for example, you rarely hear about SUPERAntiSpyware and never hear about Spybot – Search & Destroy anymore, because these days they are both terrible.
 

rashmi

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Yet another malware to bypass Comodo's self-containment?
Comodo can't handle it... :(
Don't worry too much about these PoCs. Security products often fail against targeted attacks or attacks that exploit a product's design. Every other antivirus fails consistently in @cruelsister's tests of PoCs and malicious samples. However, most modern and reputable products can still protect you effectively, especially those with default-deny setups.

Let's not discuss Comodo in @Shadowra's thread.
 
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bazang

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Don't worry too much about these PoCs. Security products often fail against targeted attacks or attacks that exploit a product's design. Every other antivirus fails consistently in @cruelsister's tests of PoCs and malicious samples. However, most modern and reputable products can still protect you effectively, especially those with default-deny setups.

Let's not discuss Comodo in @Shadowra's thread.
Only a highly skilled pentest against a network and information systems with the security software installed to protect that network on the systems therein will give anybody an accurate and reliable notion of how effective that security software actually is.

The whole youtuber test methodology of "I executed a malware pack or I downloaded a file from the internet and executed it and entered a malicious URL to see what happens" is so misleading. It creates a one-dimensional narrative of security software capability and quality that is completely false overall.

It is "users that want to use stuff" testing, which is complete nonsense from a security perspective. To protect a system from "users that want to use stuff" is an exercise in utter futility. A bypass is assured despite the security software placing first in the test video ranking system.

Change the sample set and the ranking order will be different. It will change with every different set of samples.

POCs. Well they are just POCs until they aren't, and they're actively used as part of a malicious campaign. The POCs stolen from the US government were the basis of an entire slew of malware campaigns over the years.

People getting so upset about what is posted about software. I think it is hilarious. Great entertainment. Shows people for what they really are.
 
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Halllo Shadowra, have you tried this:?




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It would be interesting to see a test between the old Norton and the new Norton (Avast engine). I believe that the new Norton V24 (Avast) has been recently been upgraded to V25.

I've already done it, but version 24 :/

@Shadowra can you test total defense, all the tests on YouTube are too old

It comes out after the Panda video this weekend! :)
 

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